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    @AmberArmy said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    @chchfanatic if that’s true then it makes the decision to bring in papali’i even stupider.

    I am afraid that it had to happen after there was a United Nations resolution that everyone should move on from "Headbutt-gate".

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    Choosing Papali'i over Blackadder is the smart choice.

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    @Duluth said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    @antipodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    Blackadder could benefit from adding more muscle and strength to his frame. With his undoubted engine, that would enable him to have more impact in the collision.

    Sure, but he's is not that small

    I think it's something else. Coaches of his and EB himself have joked about how unco he is. Too often he gets himself into weak positions going into contact and crumbles/bounces off etc

    A lot of this you could actually apply to Rieko as well - he is a more than willing ball carrier but for a big man he goes to ground after initial contact a hell of a lot. Especially since his breakout first couple of years - my sense is that coaches have worked out where to target him as a ball carrier.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    @Landers92 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    @Tim said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    @Landers92 How about off the bench in game 2, or a start in game 3? Seems that lineout and defense are his best areas.

    Wasn’t aware he was talking about game 1. I’m sure they have a plan for these newbies, feels like the days of throwing players to the wolves doesn’t really happen anymore.

    But is playing against this French side in a home series really the wolves? I don’t think so. Sure every test match is a ‘test’, but this series presents an ideal opportunity to see some of the less experienced players along side experienced ABs and what they can do.

    I would love to see a number of them start.

    I never said throwing them to the French was the wolves? I meant in general. I completely agree with your statement.

    I want Razor to go away from his comfort/safe picks and start thinking about the 2027 World Cup.

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    Ok let's do 6:

    Lineouts for Season ( won + steals )
    41 (2) Samipeni Finau
    39 (2) Cullen Grace
    31 (1) Brad Shields
    25 (6) TK Howden
    23 (5) Anton Segner
    17 (3) Brayden Iose
    14 (7) Devan Flanders
    14 (3) Cam Christie
    14 (0) Simon Parker
    2 (0) Ethan Blackadder

    Dominant Carry %
    43.1 TK Howden
    39.4 Brayden Iose
    39.2 Simon Parker
    37.2 Cam Christie
    36.1 Samipeni Finau
    35.3 Oliver Haig
    30.8 Anton Segner
    27.1 Cullen Grace
    13.8 Ethan Blackadder

    Gainline %
    71.1 Samipeni Finau
    69.6 Simon Parker
    68.2 Anton Segner
    66.2 TK Howden
    64.7 Oliver Haig
    55.8 Cam Christie
    50.0 Brayden Iose
    48.6 Cullen Grace
    34.1 Ethan Blackadder

    Tackle Evasion %
    15.8 Oliver Haig
    15.1 Samipeni Finau
    14.1 TK Howden
    12.2 Simon Parker
    9.8 Cam Christie
    9.4 Cullen Grace
    9.2 Anton Segner
    2.5 Ethan Blackadder

    Kid's going to be very good.

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    A couple of key stat metrics aligning for Parker and what I’d love to see as an impact bench 6.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    A couple of key stat metrics aligning for Parker and what I’d love to see as an impact bench 6.

    Finau, Parker, Howden all jump out.
    If they don’t bring Parker in post injury, it might be a shame that they didn’t look at Howden here.

    I really really like the 6 lineout steals, that signifies real ability in the air, maybe a bit of Jono Gibbs’s about him?

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    @KiwiMurph said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    @Duluth said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    @antipodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    Blackadder could benefit from adding more muscle and strength to his frame. With his undoubted engine, that would enable him to have more impact in the collision.

    Sure, but he's is not that small

    I think it's something else. Coaches of his and EB himself have joked about how unco he is. Too often he gets himself into weak positions going into contact and crumbles/bounces off etc

    A lot of this you could actually apply to Rieko as well - he is a more than willing ball carrier but for a big man he goes to ground after initial contact a hell of a lot. Especially since his breakout first couple of years - my sense is that coaches have worked out where to target him as a ball carrier.

    Doesn't use his feet close to contact, tucks the ball under one arm and also ducks his head so he doesn't even look up/around. I really can't understand why it hasn't been fixed.

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    @KiwiMurph said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    @Duluth said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    @antipodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    Blackadder could benefit from adding more muscle and strength to his frame. With his undoubted engine, that would enable him to have more impact in the collision.

    Sure, but he's is not that small

    I think it's something else. Coaches of his and EB himself have joked about how unco he is. Too often he gets himself into weak positions going into contact and crumbles/bounces off etc

    A lot of this you could actually apply to Rieko as well - he is a more than willing ball carrier but for a big man he goes to ground after initial contact a hell of a lot. Especially since his breakout first couple of years - my sense is that coaches have worked out where to target him as a ball carrier.

    He's quite tall but not exactly built like a tackle buster.

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    Well that was a methodic dismantling of the Blackadder myth. Confirmed beyond all doubt the "busy but ineffective" label.

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    @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    @KiwiMurph said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    @Duluth said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    @antipodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    Blackadder could benefit from adding more muscle and strength to his frame. With his undoubted engine, that would enable him to have more impact in the collision.

    Sure, but he's is not that small

    I think it's something else. Coaches of his and EB himself have joked about how unco he is. Too often he gets himself into weak positions going into contact and crumbles/bounces off etc

    A lot of this you could actually apply to Rieko as well - he is a more than willing ball carrier but for a big man he goes to ground after initial contact a hell of a lot. Especially since his breakout first couple of years - my sense is that coaches have worked out where to target him as a ball carrier.

    Doesn't use his feet close to contact, tucks the ball under one arm and also ducks his head so he doesn't even look up/around. I really can't understand why it hasn't been fixed.

    I noticed when he first started playing midfield at the higher level , he instinctively used to try and use his pace to find space to run at , whether it was coached out of him out of fear of being isolated? , now he seems more content to run into contact

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    @kiwiinmelb

    Maybe part of the modern game? Now that most outside backs are good at winning breakdown steals the wider you play the greater the risk of turning over the ball.

    Jessie Kriel didn't pass once in the RWC Final.

    I think Rieko to a degree lost some of his mojo and is a bit too comfortable.

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    @MN5 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    @KiwiMurph said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    @Duluth said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    @antipodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    Blackadder could benefit from adding more muscle and strength to his frame. With his undoubted engine, that would enable him to have more impact in the collision.

    Sure, but he's is not that small

    I think it's something else. Coaches of his and EB himself have joked about how unco he is. Too often he gets himself into weak positions going into contact and crumbles/bounces off etc

    A lot of this you could actually apply to Rieko as well - he is a more than willing ball carrier but for a big man he goes to ground after initial contact a hell of a lot. Especially since his breakout first couple of years - my sense is that coaches have worked out where to target him as a ball carrier.

    He's quite tall but not exactly built like a tackle buster.

    He looks taller and heavier than Ardie Savea who is a great tackle buster.

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    @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    He looks taller and heavier than Ardie Savea who is a great tackle buster.

    I think Ardie has a stockier core and legs. Regardless, Ioane could burst more tackles (may be a key criterion for AB coaches)...
    I agree Ardie is shorter than Rieko. I went through some AB etc photos, I also don't think, despite the stats, that Dalton is much taller if at all than LJ.

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    @Kirwan said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    Well that was a methodic dismantling of the Blackadder myth. Confirmed beyond all doubt the "busy but ineffective" label.

    As a ball carrier, sure. He's almost McCaw-like in his lack of metres and evasiveness.
    Is a ball carrier what we need to accompany and balance Sititi and Savea?

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    @reprobate said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    @Kirwan said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    Well that was a methodic dismantling of the Blackadder myth. Confirmed beyond all doubt the "busy but ineffective" label.

    As a ball carrier, sure. He's almost McCaw-like in his lack of metres and evasiveness.
    Is a ball carrier what we need to accompany and balance Sititi and Savea?

    I'd accept his lack of carrying ability if he was a bone crunching tackler and smashed rucks like a madman

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    Geez, it is just a circle-jerk of butt-hurt provincial bias against Blackadder, isn't it?

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    McCaw was better ball carrier than Blackadder. If you watch the 2015 RWC final his pace off the mark at 34 is still better than what Blackadders is.

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    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    Geez, it is just a circle-jerk of butt-hurt provincial bias against Blackadder, isn't it?

    No, more a case of folk expressing concern at his limitations as a player

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    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    Geez, it is just a circle-jerk of butt-hurt provincial bias against Blackadder, isn't it?

    Hands up if you've joined the pile-on

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