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  • ChrisC Away
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    @Chris-B said in Other Cricket:

    @MN5 said in Other Cricket:

    @Chris-B said in Other Cricket:

    @No-Quarter said in Other Cricket:

    Kohli's overall test stats put him a level below Smith, Kane and Root, but he was a player that really rose to the occasion and seemed to thrive under pressure rather than fold.

    I think that's why stats shouldn't be treated as the be all and end all.

    As Virgil points out, if he'd walked away in 2019 he could have averaged 55.

    I'm happy to have him on the same tier as Kane et al.

    He's played 550 international matches to Kane's 371!

    More opportunity - but, also more attrition....

    Yeah 30 test hundreds is pretty damn epic.

    …….and 46 is still what I’d consider at the top end of very good test averages.

    Yeah - history won't record how The Don would have gone if he'd played another 498 international matches.

    Or how Don only really played against England 37 of 52 tests v England.

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    @Chris-B said in Other Cricket:

    @MN5 said in Other Cricket:

    @Chris-B said in Other Cricket:

    @No-Quarter said in Other Cricket:

    Kohli's overall test stats put him a level below Smith, Kane and Root, but he was a player that really rose to the occasion and seemed to thrive under pressure rather than fold.

    I think that's why stats shouldn't be treated as the be all and end all.

    As Virgil points out, if he'd walked away in 2019 he could have averaged 55.

    I'm happy to have him on the same tier as Kane et al.

    He's played 550 international matches to Kane's 371!

    More opportunity - but, also more attrition....

    Yeah 30 test hundreds is pretty damn epic.

    …….and 46 is still what I’d consider at the top end of very good test averages.

    Yeah - history won't record how The Don would have gone if he'd played another 498 international matches.

    Yeah the average might have plummeted to 95

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    I don't see Kohli as a piston wristed gibbon at all. If you're going to call him out, then Fern favourite Wagner... well, not exactly all sunshine and rainbows and friendliness on the field was he?
    Warner though, now he is a fuck-bag.

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    Well done Root. He is VERY close to passing three of the modern eras true legends, should do so very shortly given he has five home tests coming up against India which should see him sail clear comfortably.

    We can gripe all we like about England playing more cricket than we do so he’ll always have more of a chance than KW but he still has to go out and actually GET the runs and not suffer from fluctuations in form/fitness.

    I wonder if Tendulkars record is on his mind ?

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    For stats nerds, Shubman Gill is the first player to score 200 and 150 in a test match. I suppose this era of fast scoring makes it possible.

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    @KiwiPie said in Other Cricket:

    For stats nerds, Shubman Gill is the first player to score 200 and 150 in a test match. I suppose this era of fast scoring makes it possible.

    430 runs only 2nd to Gooch's 456 back in 1990

    3 hundreds in 4 innings, 2 tests matches into the series and hes already plundered 585 runs, still 3 tests to go.

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    Bazball didn’t quite pay off in this game for England. Michael Vaughan suggested they play for a draw, maybe they should have.

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    Well done this guy……

    Easily the highest test score ever from a South African and he’s still going. Currently 5th equal, better than a run a ball….

    Incredible effort for a guy who doesn’t have anywhere near the batting pedigree of Lara, Hayden, Jayawardene, Sobers, Hutton, Hammond etc

    https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/south-africa-in-zimbabwe-2025-1478513/zimbabwe-vs-south-africa-2nd-test-1478864/full-scorecard

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  • MN5M Online
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    5th on his own, overtakes Sobers. Jayawardene, Lara, Hayden and Lara again the only ones ahead of him.

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    What the fuck ? They declared at lunch and he can’t blame the captain cos he IS the captain.

    …..and they get the Zimbabwe opener first ball.

    I’m genuinely disappointed he didn’t have a go at Lara’s record. Zimbabwe are 5/2 already, loads of time to have rolled them twice.

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    Zimbabwe all out for 170 in their first innings and 51/1 in the second. Just to make sure he gets MOM Mulder took a cheeky 2/20 as well.

    Day three hasn't even started !

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    @Donsteppa said in Other Cricket:

    SA won inside three days.

    I know it’s a team game but by being completely selfishly selfless he owed it to the game to have a crack at Lara’s record. He could have batted 30-45 minutes after lunch and got there easily.

    Only 33 triple tons have been scored in test cricket history, that’s in 2593 matches. He had an opportunity to go one better. There is NO FUCKEN WAY this guy will get another chance.

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    I like that Lara's record stands. He's obviously a much better player, and he scored it against a much better opposition. Absolutely destroying Zimbabwe doesn't hold as much water as putting 400 on a tier one side.

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    @No-Quarter said in Other Cricket:

    I like that Lara's record stands. He's obviously a much better player, and he scored it against a much better opposition. Absolutely destroying Zimbabwe doesn't hold as much water as putting 400 on a tier one side.

    No argument from me, Lara is one of my favourite ever players…..can lay claim to being the second best test batsman ever in my opinion……but it would have still been cool if some relatively unheralded guy took the record.

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    the bloke averaged 26 before this knock, and was playing a glorified pub team. I would have been furious if he took the record to be fair, makes an absolute mockery of test cricket.

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    @mariner4life said in Other Cricket:

    the bloke averaged 26 before this knock, and was playing a glorified pub team. I would have been furious if he took the record to be fair, makes an absolute mockery of test cricket.

    I do hear you, but even against shit teams it is still a great effort to get mammoth scores. You're right, his record is modest compared to every other guy on the list who has a triple ton but isn't that the beauty of sport, every journeyman potentially having his day ?

    Then again perhaps he agreed with you and thought "Shit, I've just passed Gary Sobers, no way am I this good, better declare instead of having a go at Lara"

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    @mariner4life said in Other Cricket:

    the bloke averaged 26 before this knock, and was playing a glorified pub team. I would have been furious if he took the record to be fair, makes an absolute mockery of test cricket.

    Hayden took the record against Zim in bloody Darwin if I recall correctly.

    Tests are Tests. They all count. Where is your 'killer aussie' mentality?*

    • yeah yeah, I know - Mark Taylor declared rather than pass the Don ... don't rain on my parade
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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    fuck Matt Hayden, he's a piston wristed gibbon as well.

    The Zimbos were slightly more respectable then than they are now.

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    @mariner4life said in Other Cricket:

    fuck Matt Hayden, he's a piston wristed gibbon as well.

    The Zimbos were slightly more respectable then than they are now.

    Great batsman. Sitting watching him in the nets at the Basin years ago was awesome. Fuck he could hit it.

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