Beer thread
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It's a really nice piece of kit, but you're fundamentally paying for convenience to get extract brews on tap cheaply and easily.
If you were inclined, you could set yourself up with
- a fridge
- temp controller
- fermenter
- keg, tap C02 bottle and regulator
all for less than $1k. Then you can brew up the same stuff and keg it yourself for peanuts. What you don't get is the shiny stainless steel conical fermenter, the integration and the shiny shiny.
Of course, you are then set up to go all grain brewing, which leads to great beers and shitloads of weight gain (I put on 10kg the first year I had craft beer on tap in my house).
Home brewing is totally worth it. Best hobby ever.
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Nice craft beer = weight gain. No two ways about it and I have about 20 750 ml bottles in the garage and am getting 40 more in the next couple of days.
Fuck.
My discipline so far is, well, "good" despite the odd blowout. Funnily enough if I have a mini session and demean myself with Corona or Heinie the weight doesn't change at all. A few of the blokes I brew with are skinny mountain biking types......I enjoy drinking beer not biking so HIIT cardio and weights will have to do.
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I'm a lazy searcher, but does "Off Topic" have a thread on whisky / whiskey?
I've recently hit 40 and started watching Mad Men, so I felt obliged to invest in a couple of single malt Scotches. It's quite a complicated world, but booze is always rewarding.
I have purchased a Glenlivet Founders Reserve and a Glenmorangie 10 year old, with the latter the standout of those two. Each has set me back less than $60, which is pretty much bottom dollar for a single malt. I'm not really willing to go too much higher pricewise yet, so does anyone have any suggestions on good scotch in the NZD 60-80 range or equivalent?
I have tried a few Islay varieties and I am probably keen to develop my taste elsewhere for now.
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December = Lists
Here's someones attempt at the the top 50 NZ beers.. and of course every list needs a left field option in the top 10
http://www.beernation.co.nz/new-zealands-50-greatest-beers-50-to-41/
http://www.beernation.co.nz/new-zealands-50-greatest-beers-40-31/
http://www.beernation.co.nz/new-zealands-50-greatest-beers-30-21/
http://www.beernation.co.nz/new-zealands-50-greatest-beers-20-11/
http://www.beernation.co.nz/new-zealands-greatest-beers-top-10/
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@Duluth said in Beer thread:
December = Lists
Here's someones attempt at the the top 50 NZ beers.. and of course every list needs a left field option in the top 10
I thought their top 10 was very good. Steinlager is my dirty go to beer ... clean and drinkable. Not sure it'd make a top 10, but one of the best commercial beers
Can't fault the top 3.
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@Duluth said in Beer thread:
December = Lists
Here's someones attempt at the the top 50 NZ beers.. and of course every list needs a left field option in the top 10
http://www.beernation.co.nz/new-zealands-50-greatest-beers-50-to-41/
http://www.beernation.co.nz/new-zealands-50-greatest-beers-40-31/
http://www.beernation.co.nz/new-zealands-50-greatest-beers-30-21/
http://www.beernation.co.nz/new-zealands-50-greatest-beers-20-11/
http://www.beernation.co.nz/new-zealands-greatest-beers-top-10/
I can't believe Garage Project - Beer isn't in there!
Can't beleive Tui made top 50. Good grief, I can't even drink it for free.
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Glad to see 8Wired I Stout on this list, even if it is way down at 24 - that's still my favourite
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@Tim said in Beer thread:
Emmersons pilsner is pleasent but exceptionally dull.
Dull? I have to admit I don't drink it much because I'm not a great lager/pilsner drinker but as an example of the breed it isn't dull at all. If I had to choose a beer of this style to drink it would be the one I would go to, especially if pairing with kai moana.
Steinlager is the surprise in the list but then they make a good argument. I suspect it is more an attempt to try and show the list makers aren't being beer snobs though.
Can't really argue much about the remainder of the list although personal preference would have had ThreeBoys Oyster Stout ahead of Steingrenade and there is a distinct lack of love for Kereru (IMO the multi award winning Toasted Coconut Porter beats Imperial Nibs) and although Panhead Supercharger is in the top 10 there is a lack of their other beers. -
It's definitely dull. No bite from the malt or hops. A friend in the NZ beer industry told me that it become much more so since Emmersons was acquired. I hadn't tried it prior to that.
On the other hand, I enjoy Tuatara's Pilsner, but the hops are into US IPA territory.
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@Tim said in Beer thread:
It's definitely dull. No bite from the malt or hops. A friend in the NZ beer industry told me that it become much more so since Emmersons was acquired. I hadn't tried it prior to that.
On the other hand, I enjoy Tuatara's Pilsner, but the hops are into US IPA territory.
I think your friend may be talking tripe. Richard Emerson is still in charge down there and the recipes haven't changed nor has the brewing process. Lion's investment has simply meant larger production facilities and more output.
The only difference I can think is that kegged Emerson's is now more accessible and the fresh draught version is likely to taste different to the bottled.
It's a matter of taste obviously but the is a general consensus on this beer that differs to yours and given that it is hardly ever 'hyped' I tend to think its rating is deserved.There is a fairly large contingent of beer snobs in NZ that have decided that Emersons and Panhead somehow became worse simply because the ownership of their shares changed to a multinational.
My only reservation with the increase in production is the availability in bars on keg that probably don't take quite the same care with their delivery systems as a smaller boutique bars does and that there are now more often two slightly different versions around from the same recipe. One being bottled, one being keeged. -
@Crucial said in Beer thread:
Steinlager is the surprise in the list but then they make a good argument. I suspect it is more an attempt to try and show the list makers aren't being beer snobs though.
Joe Wood (liberty brewing) is a bit of a steinlager fan I understand. One trick he plays is to blind taste Steinlager to people in tastings, and people often enjoy it as a clean, bitter lager, and then let them know what it is.
I, of course, have been drinking from classy green bottles since soon after Hadlee retired.
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I always enjoyed reading Donaldson's articles in the SST. These lists are obviously his opinion but it's a good opportunity to try different beers based on recommendations. Pretty much all the breweries he has talked up in these articles have a beer in his top 10. Excluding Steinlager I've tried 7 of them myself prior to this list.
I sampled Gunnamatta at a beer tasting evening a few years back and didn't like it at all - not an Earl Grey tea fan.
