UFC / MMA
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@MiketheSnow said in UFC:
Then Gall and Waterson with the upsets against Northcutt and VanZant respectively.
I think Gall was a slight favourite?
Gall is doing a great job of managing his profile.. he's a good prospect but he shouldn't really be a co-main at the moment.
Calling out Punk, Northcutt and now maybe talking his way into the Hardy comeback fight is leveraging other peoples fame so wellChoking this guy out would have got him some new fans
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I only saw the 2 main events but both were good fights - it feels like it's been ages since I saw a submission.
I thought Waterson was really impressive. Mainly though, because VanZant was coming across super confident / borderline cocky, and I always enjoy seeing somebody cocky given their come uppance.
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Well that was anti-climactic. Ronda was worse than ever, she looked horrible. No head movement whatsoever and what seemed like no confidence either. Why she'd keep the same garbage coaches around when she was so thoroughly out-coached last time and her Judo champion mother warned her that Edmund's a shitty, leech of a coach, I have no idea.
Great win (if easy) by Nunes though.
And now it's time for drinking.
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UFC 207
Oliveira v Means
Tough call on Means. Rocked Oliveira with knees to the head but was deemed accidental knee and no contest.Thatch v Price
Great submission finish for Price on his debutPyle v Garcia
What a finish by Garcia. Pyle will be lucky to come round in 2016!Carlos Junior v Vettori
Evenly matched, non-showy contest. Carlos Junior with the unanimous decision.Hendricks v Magny
Went to the judges, unanimous decision in favour of Magny. Bullshit IMHO.Smolka v Borg
Unanimous decision for Borg. Swarmed all over Smolka.Kim v Saffiedine
Plenty of skill on show in an uneventful bout. Kim with the split decision.Dillashaw v Lineker
Fast, athletic, skillful, back and forth
Brains over brawn with Dillashaw getting the unanimous decisionCruz v Garbrandt
Fight of the Night for me
Fast, furious, shit talking, banging
Cruz looked like the challenger for most of the bout
Thoroughly deserved win for GarbrandtNunes v Rousey
WOW
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@MiketheSnow said in UFC:
Hendricks v Magny
Went to the judges, unanimous decision in favour of Magny. Bullshit IMHO.I'll disagree with you there, Mike. I'm all for takedowns being scored, which is why I gave Hendricks the second, but you've got to do something on the ground and Hendricks didn't do a fucking thing in the first and third rounds. Magny did more from the bottom in those two rounds with his triangle attempts, punches and elbows, than Hendricks did in the entire fight. I was shocked at how good that decision was.
Hendricks should be sent packing now. Doesn't have the discipline to make weight, has been shit since he had to cut the roids (which was funny to hear Rogan continually imply with his "you never see someone lose their power this quickly" comments), looks like he's aged 20 years in the last 2 and all he's done since right before the GSP fight is bitch and whinge.
Agree on the rest though. I think it's a pity Borg dominated Smolka so much after he missed weight.
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From my perspective, she shouldn't have gone in so aggressively, should've had a LOT more feet and head movement and should've been looking for any chance she got to take Nunes down. Nunes SHOULD have played right into her strengths, unlike Holly, because while she has power, she's not a clean puncher, she has horrible takedown defence and she has horrendous stamina. Yet Ronda ran in like an idiot, stood still and her only attempts at a take down were when she was already half unconscious.
This all comes down to her GARBAGE coaching team, especially Edmond. Dude tells her she's a good boxer and she believes it, even after getting knocked the fuck out by Holly, so she tries to stand and trade with strikers. Worst coach in MMA.
Edit: For reference, here's one of the walls at Edmond's gym:
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Rousey did not look like she wanted to be there - totally agree about total lack of movement. She just seemed to wait to be tagged - I don't know a great deal about the coaching side and if she actually has any striking talent to work with, but she looked dire.
Not to be morbid but do you think she is back on suicide watch? Can't imagine she is in a good head space. Reckon her mum was dropping some wisdom afterwards. Unless Rousey thinks her alternate career opportunities will flounder unless she goes out a winner in UFC??
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@Paekakboyz said in UFC:
Rousey did not look like she wanted to be there - totally agree about total lack of movement. She just seemed to wait to be tagged - I don't know a great deal about the coaching side and if she actually has any striking talent to work with, but she looked dire.
Not to be morbid but do you think she is back on suicide watch? Can't imagine she is in a good head space. Reckon her mum was dropping some wisdom afterwards. Unless Rousey thinks her alternate career opportunities will flounder unless she goes out a winner in UFC??
Her movies are on hold due to concerns about her acting. Without her reputation in UFC she doesn't have anything to market.
That loss ended her career outside of UFC, she needs new coaches and to make a comeback in the ring.
Problem is she seems to have a glass jaw, fight was over after one punch. So without the ability to avoid being hit I can't see much of a future.
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@Unco Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too. Better coaching would have had her avoiding a strike battle and instead forcing it to the ground. It just happened so quick! Wasn't entirely sure she had a chance.
@Paekakboyz said in UFC:
Rousey did not look like she wanted to be there
Not so sure about that. She seemed pretty fired up, but got rocked early and never looked in it.
Her movies are on hold due to concerns about her acting. Without her reputation in UFC she doesn't have anything to market.
100% She had a career based on being the baddest chick on the planet. That reputation papered over her terrible acting. She's going nowhere based solely on acting skill.
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UFC 209 ... They had the card in the wrong order.
Hunt vs Overeem was a good fight - technical vs power. And a brutal knockout to finish - maybe not spectacular as others but when Hunt went down he was stone cold 100% out. Bloody fight after Hunt split his leg open early doors.
Calvillo vs Cooper - easy for Calvillo, once Cooper down, then it was a no contest
Kelly vs Evans - have you ever seen a guy look least likely to be an MMA fighter - that is Dan Kelly? He looks like a miner who got lost on the way to the whore house, but he's one tough bastard. Good on him.
Teymur vs Vanatta - fight of the night, easily. they really went at it, although neither had real knockout power, otherwise this could have been over early doors. Felt for Vanatta, as the score didn't really reflect how well he did in the fight. 3 x 30-27 unanimous makes it seem like he got owned, but he 100% didn't.
Headliner Woodley vs Wonderboy was a bit of a non event. Both fighters were really really cagey and unwilling to engage. Was more of a chess match than a fight. Woodley had him on the ropes at the end and I think this saved him. I had the fight 27-28 to Wonderboy, arguably 27-27 on the last round being a 10-8. Having said that though, he didn't deserve to be named champion on the basis of that fight, and Woodley didn't deserve to lose it. either. So I think the right outcome.
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Good summary.
Elkins v Bektic was Fight of the Night for me.
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UFC Fight Night 106
Borrachinha is a beast. Will be interesting to see his development in the UFC.
Great finish from Prazeres.
Yaha v Soto was a war. Great comeback from Soto.
Great patience and strength from Lee to beat Trinaldo.
Oliveira too strong for Means.
Superb finish from Barboza. BOOOOOOOOM
Good old fashioned battle between Rua and Villante, with Rua finishing crisply and decisively.
Gastelum finishes Belfort on the back of a super fast jab. Tremendous.
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I don't follow MMA at all but this guy does his S&C training at the gym my son works at. He was showing me a video the other day where Jimi wanted to do some work on a heavy bag and the only guy in the gym they could rope in to hold it was an ex Harlequins front rower (can't remember which one). He was really struggling to hold the bag steady . The power in the kicks looked like they would kill you if they hit you.
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Have also seen him doing this thing to strengthen his neck against taking head shots where he is basically using one of the weight machines with a cloth tied to it and gripped in his teeth
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@MiketheSnow said in UFC:
Superb finish from Barboza. BOOOOOOOOM
Dariush moving forward into it made the force even more brtual
Situations like this are why I dislike seeing female refs in the UFC. In this instance Barboza was already starting to disengage, however the ref was correct to go flying in there to protect the downed fighter.
Can the female refs throw their weight around as well as this guy or Big John/Herb? Its a physical job and tokenism puts the fighters at risk.
Earlier in this card there was an accidental headbutt and the female ref took ~10secs to seperate the fighters.. they barely noticed her trying to pull them apartSo many good fights on that card. One of the better fight nights for a while
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This is the first time I've seen this female ref. There is another one that works on a lot of the vegas cards
Heres the incident I'm talking about - the accidental headbutt (shitty video quality)
Check out how long it takes to break them up. If the guy was dazed he could have taken some damage that could have affected the result
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@MajorRage said in UFC:
@Duluth there are female refs in the UFC? Thats PC gone complete and utterly mad. Maybe in the womans division at a cinch ...
But yes, refs should be be strong guys who would be able to withstand the force of a misdirected punch.
Don't know if you'd find many that could take anything more than a glancing blow.
I know little to nothing about MMA itself. It just doesn't interest me as a sport but I am getting quite interested in hearing about some of the training they do. My son was showing me a video last night of some S&C training he did yesterday with that Jimi Manuwa that I linked above. He was standing about 2 metres out from a wall with his back to it and hiffing a 15kg medicine ball behind him that was bouncing back and being caught about 4 metres out. That is some power! Certainly not a stray hit I'd like to take.
BTW if anyone is looking for a flutter this weekend, the inside word is that Jimi has upped all his numbers quite a bit since his last fight. Just needs to do a good weight drop for weigh in now.
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BTW if anyone is looking for a flutter this weekend, the inside word is that Jimi has upped all his numbers quite a bit since his last fight. Just needs to do a good weight drop for weigh in now.
Not sure about that. Manuwa is rightly the favourite but there is not much value there
If the fight stays on the feet Manuwa is the better striker by a long way.
Anderson has been unimpressive but he has a style that could take advantage of Manuwa's take down defence. It doesn't matter what numbers he's pushing in the gym if his can't sort that out. Anderson could win in a dull humping match
Then there is the question of age: Manuwa 37 vs Anderson 27 and Manuwa has been put to sleep in 2 of his last 4 fights
I still pick Manuwa to win but those odds I've seen aren't attractive enough given the risk
Oh and hopefully one day we'll see Corey Anderson vs Pat Cummins to really confuse cricket fans
