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  • PaekakboyzP Offline
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    Do they require a lot of wrist strength? or is it more about the technique? That BEAR exercise that was posted a while back looked pretty cool but I never gave it a go. <br />
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    Must be nice to have other folk to compete with but not have to worry about a training partner so to speak.

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    Kirwan
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    [quote name='Paekakboyz']Do they require a lot of wrist strength? or is it more about the technique? That BEAR exercise that was posted a while back looked pretty cool but I never gave it a go. <br />
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    Must be nice to have other folk to compete with but not have to worry about a training partner so to speak.[/QUOTE]<br />
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    A couple do, cause you need to get the bar as close to your throat as possible for balance with your elbows out and that makes a difficult/uncomfortable angle on the wrist.<br />
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    I wouldn't be doing these lifts in a gym without someone on call to correct any issues. I don't want to wreck my back or anything. Actually, that's worth mentioning that I've had no back or neck pain since I've started this. Another health benefit.

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    Yeah that was my initial concern with going back to squats and starting fresh on DL's. Really important to get your form sorted and understand where the pressure is going before you go hard. I busted the cartildge in one wrist years ago and while it's not weak it does give me problems at certain angles (that's as bad as the snatch comments!).<br />
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    Not surprised your back/neck is better - doing DL's in particular has improved my posture and back strength out of sight. Feel a lot more balanced for lack of a better description. The crossfit workouts seem to have a lot of variety so you'd be developing strength all over rather than overtraining one area.

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    Another session under the belt, 20min WOD of 5x incline pressups, 10 x Evil one legged squats, 15 x pullups. Was a bit of a eye opener of for "workons". My pullups are still terrible, can get to four in a row now, but that's it.<br />
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    Needed to swap out the pullups (after stepping down in the various assistance ways you can do them) to 15 x 16kg kettlebell overhead things. The one legged squats (which nobody could do, even the instructor) got modified to a halfway down to a set height, still bloody hard. <br />
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    Got through 11 rounds in 20mins, and was sucking in oxygen at the end. So got a good workout.<br />
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    To increase the pullups, I've been doing them as part of the warmup in every session, and there's this rubber band thing he has to reduce your weight, so I then crack out some more of those. First target is double figures.<br />
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    Oh and some of the strength work was those plank holds for 3 x 1min. Lots of sweat and failing here!<br />
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    Have stopped recording my weight now, stomach is getting smaller by the minute, shoulders, back and legs are getting bigger so weight is actually going up. Jeans I could barely fit months ago are too baggy now, about to buy a new pair.

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    [quote name='Kirwan']To increase the pullups, I've been doing them as part of the warmup in every session, and there's this rubber band thing he has to reduce your weight, so I then crack out some more of those. First target is double figures.[/QUOTE]<br />
    Try doing some negatives.. jump up and then try to take 10secs to lower yourself down.. repeat

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    [quote name='Duluth']Try doing some negatives.. jump up and then try to take 10secs to lower yourself down.. repeat[/QUOTE]<br />
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    Sadly, I have been (not ten seconds though). Also, the instructor pointing out I wasn't gripping the bar correctly, so was not using any forearm strength.<br />
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    Bastard has my "PB" up on the board, so am pretty motivated to get it improved.

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    What is the correct way of gripping the bar Kirwan?

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    #336

    [quote name='Hooroo']What is the correct way of gripping the bar Kirwan?[/QUOTE]<br />
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    With your full hand, not hanging by your fingers like a doofus (Like I was...)

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    [quote name='Kirwan']With your full hand, not hanging by your fingers like a doofus (Like I was...)[/QUOTE]<br />
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    Yeah to get a few pull/chin ups going you have to grip the absolute shit out of the bar. It increases the muscle flexing/tension like no ones business and hence increases the amount/quality.

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    experiment with the width of your hand spacing as well... Pull ups are evil but very, very good. Good luck!

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    Kirwan
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    #339

    [quote name='Paekakboyz']experiment with the width of your hand spacing as well... Pull ups are evil but very, very good. Good luck![/QUOTE]<br />
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    Is closer together easier? At the moment I have them spaced slightly wider than than my shoulders, I figure any wider is tougher?

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  • JKJ Offline
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    I love pullups. <br />
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    Use to be able to only do 3 or 4 of own body weight and now about 6 months on I can comfortably do 20 with a narrow grip but only about 10-12 on the wide grip.<br />
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    Wide grip is definitely alot harder but makes sense to do em that way if can do 12 or so easy enough with the narrow grip.<br />
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    I will often do 10 or so wide grip followed up by 5 to 10 on the narrow grip.

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    #341

    if palms toward you then closer grip (just in line with shoulders) is easier - pretty much biceps and back through that action.<br />
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    palms away from you - hands just outside of your shoulders is pretty much spot on - you'll be driving right through your lats/centre of your back. I always tried to mimic the spacing I use on my Lat pulldowns so you take advantage of the strength you are building. I agree that pushing even wider makes them harder!! <br />
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    Not sure about the form you are being taught but for non-crossfit pull ups I got told to keep core as stable as possible and to drive up through your hips/glutes. You are trying to go straight upward with as little swing as possible. <br />
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    One other thing re grip - Do they have different sized bars for the pullups? if you struggle to get your hand fully closed around the bar it can make things tougher.

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    #342

    Am OK with the bar size. I'm doing the palm away as most of the later crossfit exercises are like that. They have a couple (that I remember), one being the deadhang pullup with no momentum (which I'm talking about) and the other being the kipping(?) pullup where you do a hip thrust/kick motion to get up. <br />
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    Deadhang is obviously harder, but the kipping ones are difficult to do correctly if that makes sense. <br />
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    At least I'm now doing them right, just a case of getting stronger now.

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  • MN5M Offline
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    Anyone able to do a one armed pullup ? Definitely on my lifetime "to do" list. <br />
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    Palms facing are my favourite cos they work the guns best. I figure deadlifting works the back enough so don't do palms out as much.

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    Kirwan
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    #344

    [quote name='MN5']Anyone able to do a one armed pullup ? Definitely on my lifetime "to do" list. <br />
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    Palms facing are my favourite cos they work the guns best. I figure deadlifting works the back enough so don't do palms out as much.[/QUOTE]<br />
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    Deadlifts won't be working your lats though will they? A one armed pull up is just crazy talk <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':(' />

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  • JKJ Offline
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    As a kid I remember doing those cheat one arm pullups where you hold the bar with one hand and the other hand around the wrist of the hand holding the bar. <br />
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    Aint tried one of those for ages but reckon still be easy.<br />
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    A true one armer would be a struggle!

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  • PaekakboyzP Offline
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    There's only one thing men were designed to do with one hand.<br />
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    drink! dirty buggers!

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  • BartManB Offline
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    #347

    yeah JK, I recall those, but with on hand hanging free, I reckon THAT'd be a challenge!

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    Kirwan
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    6am session today, pleased to get through this one pretty well. Strength training was back squat, setting the max score for three reps. I got up to 100kg x 3, very happy with that. Puts my 1 rep max somewhere around 115/120kg apparently, so that's getting up to my deadlift max, so that must have improved now too.<br />
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    WOD was 12mins AMRAP fo 2 pullups, 4 pushups, 8 x 20kg kettlebell which I think I did 9 or 10 rounds. The kettlebell suuuuucked.

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