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Ok ... accupuncture ...
... Doc, who is reportedly quite old school (as suggested by his practice partner one day when I had to see him instead) is right into accupuncture.
Has got me to be stuck with needles for a couple of weeks (disc, back, nerve issue).
Frankly .... it's doing absolutely nothing. Just as expected.
Am quite astonished though that a modern trained medical doctor is into accupuncture.
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Ok ... accupuncture ...
... Doc, who is reportedly quite old school (as suggested by his practice partner one day when I had to see him instead) is right into accupuncture.
Has got me to be stuck with needles for a couple of weeks (disc, back, nerve issue).
Frankly .... it's doing absolutely nothing. Just as expected.
Am quite astonished though that a modern trained medical doctor is into accupuncture.
Physios do it a lot, seems to work for them. Maybe your guy is doing it wrong?
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@Catogrande said in Woo:
@booboo I've known enough people that I respect that have had acupuncture and feel it works. I've also known people for whom it did nothing. Maybe @canefan is right - it depends on who is administering it.
Time for you to look into iridology I think
My wife is a physio and has trained in acupuncture. She and her NHS colleagues say it works for a certain type of person. The medical evidence says its no better then placebo. I will take a peer reviewed Cochrane collaboration over all the anecdotal evidence that can be provided, thanks very much.
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@Catogrande said in Woo:
@booboo I've known enough people that I respect that have had acupuncture and feel it works. I've also known people for whom it did nothing. Maybe @canefan is right - it depends on who is administering it.
Time for you to look into iridology I think
My wife is a physio and has trained in acupuncture. She and her NHS colleagues say it works for a certain type of person. The medical evidence says its no better then placebo. I will take a peer reviewed Cochrane collaboration over all the anecdotal evidence that can be provided, thanks very much.
Well you brave enough to say that here what about to Mrs Mooshld?
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Another form of quackery not covered yet is Chromotherapy (or colour therapy). Has no basis in science whatsoever.
Only reason I have heard of it though is that years ago father in law had it recommended as a solution to a persistent excema problem with the sheep on the farm. Being an old school farmer he was extremely sceptical but the problem was at the point of having to cull 100s of ewes so he put these wire web like things around the paddocks that would get brightly coloured wool strands woven through them (yep sounds totally stupid). Thing is, it worked (or at least the excema problem cleared up from that moment).
I guess it could have been lucky timing and subsequent use in other years may have appeared to stop an outbreak taking hold but he continued use for a number of years. Kept rather quiet about it if anyone visited the farm though and asked what the funny wire things were. -
@Catogrande said in Woo:
@Catogrande said in Woo:
@booboo I've known enough people that I respect that have had acupuncture and feel it works. I've also known people for whom it did nothing. Maybe @canefan is right - it depends on who is administering it.
Time for you to look into iridology I think
My wife is a physio and has trained in acupuncture. She and her NHS colleagues say it works for a certain type of person. The medical evidence says its no better then placebo. I will take a peer reviewed Cochrane collaboration over all the anecdotal evidence that can be provided, thanks very much.
Well you brave enough to say that here what about to Mrs Mooshld?
We had some right arguments about it when she finished getting trained in it. Her and all her colleagues had drunk the kool aid. But over 2 years of using it they came around. In the end they used it for chronic patients who gave vague symptoms and never did any of their prescribed exercises. A last chance salon if you will.
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Ok ... accupuncture ...
... Doc, who is reportedly quite old school (as suggested by his practice partner one day when I had to see him instead) is right into accupuncture.
Has got me to be stuck with needles for a couple of weeks (disc, back, nerve issue).
Frankly .... it's doing absolutely nothing. Just as expected.
Am quite astonished though that a modern trained medical doctor is into accupuncture.
Physios do it a lot, seems to work for them. Maybe your guy is doing it wrong?
Plenty of rugby physios use it.
I've had one course of it at a time when I used to get chronic hayfever and the drugs were just making me drowsy all the time. Was suggested by a GP as they had seen success in the past.
Therapy involved a lot of needles around the sinus area and a few in the arms and it actually did have an effect.
I'm loath to dismiss it entirely as targeting nerves and the effects on the brain are not fully understood by 'modern medicine' anyway. Neurologists are still researching and finding out all sorts of stuff so it isn't as if the method is disproven, it is just unproven.Thing is with a lot of this stuff is that it doesn't always work and doesn't work on all people, which is the threshold for 'proof'. Sometimes there is no harm in trying and if it works for you, then great.If it doesn't then certainly don't keep persisting or trying to sell it to others or think it is the first and only port of call.
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@Catogrande said in Woo:
@booboo I've known enough people that I respect that have had acupuncture and feel it works. I've also known people for whom it did nothing. Maybe @canefan is right - it depends on who is administering it.
Time for you to look into iridology I think
Iridology? Yeah, nah.
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@Catogrande said in Woo:
@booboo I've known enough people that I respect that have had acupuncture and feel it works. I've also known people for whom it did nothing. Maybe @canefan is right - it depends on who is administering it.
Time for you to look into iridology I think
"Look" into iridology?
Intentional?
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Ok ... accupuncture ...
... Doc, who is reportedly quite old school (as suggested by his practice partner one day when I had to see him instead) is right into accupuncture.
Has got me to be stuck with needles for a couple of weeks (disc, back, nerve issue).
Frankly .... it's doing absolutely nothing. Just as expected.
Am quite astonished though that a modern trained medical doctor is into accupuncture.
Physios do it a lot, seems to work for them. Maybe your guy is doing it wrong?
Plenty of rugby physios use it.
I've had one course of it at a time when I used to get chronic hayfever and the drugs were just making me drowsy all the time. Was suggested by a GP as they had seen success in the past.
Therapy involved a lot of needles around the sinus area and a few in the arms and it actually did have an effect.
I'm loath to dismiss it entirely as targeting nerves and the effects on the brain are not fully understood by 'modern medicine' anyway. Neurologists are still researching and finding out all sorts of stuff so it isn't as if the method is disproven, it is just unproven.Thing is with a lot of this stuff is that it doesn't always work and doesn't work on all people, which is the threshold for 'proof'. Sometimes there is no harm in trying and if it works for you, then great.If it doesn't then certainly don't keep persisting or trying to sell it to others or think it is the first and only port of call.
That's close to where I'm sitting. If it does no harm ...
But, if after how many thousands of years you can't
a. prove if it works
b. have no idea how it might work
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Ok ... accupuncture ...
... Doc, who is reportedly quite old school (as suggested by his practice partner one day when I had to see him instead) is right into accupuncture.
Has got me to be stuck with needles for a couple of weeks (disc, back, nerve issue).
Frankly .... it's doing absolutely nothing. Just as expected.
Am quite astonished though that a modern trained medical doctor is into accupuncture.
Physios do it a lot, seems to work for them. Maybe your guy is doing it wrong?
Plenty of rugby physios use it.
I've had one course of it at a time when I used to get chronic hayfever and the drugs were just making me drowsy all the time. Was suggested by a GP as they had seen success in the past.
Therapy involved a lot of needles around the sinus area and a few in the arms and it actually did have an effect.
I'm loath to dismiss it entirely as targeting nerves and the effects on the brain are not fully understood by 'modern medicine' anyway. Neurologists are still researching and finding out all sorts of stuff so it isn't as if the method is disproven, it is just unproven.Thing is with a lot of this stuff is that it doesn't always work and doesn't work on all people, which is the threshold for 'proof'. Sometimes there is no harm in trying and if it works for you, then great.If it doesn't then certainly don't keep persisting or trying to sell it to others or think it is the first and only port of call.
That's close to where I'm sitting. If it does no harm ...
But, if after how many thousands of years you can't
a. prove if it works
b. have no idea how it might work
then count me as pretty skeptical.As long as it is a part of a course of treatment, as opposed to the entire treatment