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    @MN5 said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    I'm trying really hard but I can't think of a crapper winger than Nowell.....and he's not even Welsh!

    Tours are fascinating.

    Remarkable how some players can go so off the boil and others come charging through.

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    @MiketheSnow said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    @MN5 said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    I'm trying really hard but I can't think of a crapper winger than Nowell.....and he's not even Welsh!

    Tours are fascinating.

    Remarkable how some players can go so off the boil and others come charging through.

    Most 'experts' had Henshaw locked in for 12 but he ain't got a chance

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    @MN5 said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    I'm trying really hard but I can't think of a crapper winger than Nowell.....and he's not even Welsh!

    He's a lot better than he has shown on tour, but he is definitely NOT your classic winger, for one thing he doesn't have the pace at the highest level. His game is all about popping up all over the place, beating the first defender and then seeing what eventuates after that. He took a little while to find his niche with England and has benefitted under Eddie Jones who appreciates what he brings and uses it.

    Having said all that, for the Lions with the short assimilation time and also the more direct way Gatland likes to play, I would have taken Johnny May in preference purely because he would fit that bit better. Oh and he does have pace.

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    @MN5 said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    @MiketheSnow said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    @MN5 said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    I'm trying really hard but I can't think of a crapper winger than Nowell.....and he's not even Welsh!

    Tours are fascinating.

    Remarkable how some players can go so off the boil and others come charging through.

    Most 'experts' had Henshaw locked in for 12 but he ain't got a chance

    With most players getting limited game time they ahem to lay their marker down early. If for whatever reason the game goes away from you, it's a long way back. Some are lucky enough to turn things around. Look at O'Mahoney after his first game, many had written him off and now some have him as captaining the test side. Sadly for Henshaw for a number of reasons he has not been able to turn things round as yet.

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    Bah, shitty team, should have let the Maori players play. Ngatai has hardly had any rugby and McKenzie and Lowe would have been fired up to improve on their Saturday performances.

    Why not start Hika as well? You want some experience on a young team.

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    @Nepia said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    Bah, shitty team, should have let the Maori players play. Ngatai has hardly had any rugby and McKenzie and Lowe would have been fired up to improve on their Saturday performances.

    Why not start Hika as well? You want some experience on a young team.

    I heard Lowe and Dmac were available.

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    @Toddy so is form related...

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    @taniwharugby Pretty shit to get dropped on form due to performances in a scratch team, played out of position, and with a questionable gameplan. Especially Ngatai who didn't even have a bad game.

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    @Catogrande said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    @MN5 said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    I'm trying really hard but I can't think of a crapper winger than Nowell.....and he's not even Welsh!

    He's a lot better than he has shown on tour, but he is definitely NOT your classic winger, for one thing he doesn't have the pace at the highest level. His game is all about popping up all over the place, beating the first defender and then seeing what eventuates after that. He took a little while to find his niche with England and has benefitted under Eddie Jones who appreciates what he brings and uses it.

    Having said all that, for the Lions with the short assimilation time and also the more direct way Gatland likes to play, I would have taken Johnny May in preference purely because he would fit that bit better. Oh and he does have pace.

    Yarde's not complaining 😉

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    @MiketheSnow said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    @Catogrande said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    @MN5 said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    I'm trying really hard but I can't think of a crapper winger than Nowell.....and he's not even Welsh!

    He's a lot better than he has shown on tour, but he is definitely NOT your classic winger, for one thing he doesn't have the pace at the highest level. His game is all about popping up all over the place, beating the first defender and then seeing what eventuates after that. He took a little while to find his niche with England and has benefitted under Eddie Jones who appreciates what he brings and uses it.

    Having said all that, for the Lions with the short assimilation time and also the more direct way Gatland likes to play, I would have taken Johnny May in preference purely because he would fit that bit better. Oh and he does have pace.

    Yarde's not complaining 😉

    He always looks as though he's just about to though.

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    @Catogrande said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    @MiketheSnow said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    @Catogrande said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    @MN5 said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    I'm trying really hard but I can't think of a crapper winger than Nowell.....and he's not even Welsh!

    He's a lot better than he has shown on tour, but he is definitely NOT your classic winger, for one thing he doesn't have the pace at the highest level. His game is all about popping up all over the place, beating the first defender and then seeing what eventuates after that. He took a little while to find his niche with England and has benefitted under Eddie Jones who appreciates what he brings and uses it.

    Having said all that, for the Lions with the short assimilation time and also the more direct way Gatland likes to play, I would have taken Johnny May in preference purely because he would fit that bit better. Oh and he does have pace.

    Yarde's not complaining 😉

    He always looks as though he's just about to though.

    Still pissed off with his hairdresser

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    @MiketheSnow said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    @Catogrande said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    @MiketheSnow said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    @Catogrande said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    @MN5 said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    I'm trying really hard but I can't think of a crapper winger than Nowell.....and he's not even Welsh!

    He's a lot better than he has shown on tour, but he is definitely NOT your classic winger, for one thing he doesn't have the pace at the highest level. His game is all about popping up all over the place, beating the first defender and then seeing what eventuates after that. He took a little while to find his niche with England and has benefitted under Eddie Jones who appreciates what he brings and uses it.

    Having said all that, for the Lions with the short assimilation time and also the more direct way Gatland likes to play, I would have taken Johnny May in preference purely because he would fit that bit better. Oh and he does have pace.

    Yarde's not complaining 😉

    He always looks as though he's just about to though.

    Still pissed off with his hairdresser

    Wouldn't you be?

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    @Nepia tongue in cheek comment...I guess they (Chiefs management) dont feel they can back up, cos if I was in that game last night and the chance to run out again for redemption of sorts, I'd be all over that.

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    @Stargazer said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    Chiefs team naming on Facebook at 1pm.

    Facebook ? whats the world coming to ?

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    @kiwiinmelb said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    @Stargazer said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    Chiefs team naming on Facebook at 1pm.

    Facebook ? whats the world coming to ?

    Even worse, they let a 10 year old do the naming as well.

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    @Nepia said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    @kiwiinmelb said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    @Stargazer said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    Chiefs team naming on Facebook at 1pm.

    Facebook ? whats the world coming to ?

    Even worse, they let a 10 year old do the naming as well.

    Aah, that's so cute.

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    @Stargazer said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    B&I Lions squad:

    15 Liam Williams – Scarlets, Wales, #833
    14 Jack Nowell – Exeter Chiefs, England, #828
    13 Jared Payne – Ulster, Ireland, #830
    12 Robbie Henshaw – Leinster, Ireland, #824
    11 Elliot Daly – Wasps, England, #822
    10 Dan Biggar – Ospreys, Wales, #821
    9 Greig Laidlaw – Gloucester Rugby, Scotland, #810

    1 Joe Marler – Harlequins, England, #811
    2 Rory Best (c) – Ulster, Ireland, #793
    3 Dan Cole – Leicester Tigers, England, #794
    4 Iain Henderson – Ulster, Ireland, #808
    5 Courtney Lawes – Northampton Saints, England, #826
    6 James Haskell – Wasps, England, #823
    7 Justin Tipuric – Ospreys, Wales, #786
    8 CJ Stander – Munster, Ireland, #831

    Replacements:
    16 Kristian Dacey – Cardiff Blues, Wales
    17 Allan Dell – Edinburgh Rugby, Scotland
    18 Tomas Francis – Exeter Chiefs, Wales
    19 Cory Hill – Newport Gwent Dragons, Wales
    20 Alun Wyn Jones – Ospreys, Wales, #761
    21 Gareth Davies – Scarlets, Wales
    22 Finn Russell – Glasgow Warriors, Scotland
    23 Tommy Seymour – Glasgow Warriors, Scotland, #813

    http://www.lionsrugby.com/?p=18055

    Interesting that AWJ on bench. Despite all those reinforcements they still can't rest the entire test 23! Joseph looks to be cover for for wing/centre in test 23 with Watson covering fullback.
    Only intrigue is whether or not Farrell fit and whether SOB will start or be impact replacement. Owen/AWJ to be finishers

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    @pakman said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    @Stargazer said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    B&I Lions squad:

    15 Liam Williams – Scarlets, Wales, #833
    14 Jack Nowell – Exeter Chiefs, England, #828
    13 Jared Payne – Ulster, Ireland, #830
    12 Robbie Henshaw – Leinster, Ireland, #824
    11 Elliot Daly – Wasps, England, #822
    10 Dan Biggar – Ospreys, Wales, #821
    9 Greig Laidlaw – Gloucester Rugby, Scotland, #810

    1 Joe Marler – Harlequins, England, #811
    2 Rory Best (c) – Ulster, Ireland, #793
    3 Dan Cole – Leicester Tigers, England, #794
    4 Iain Henderson – Ulster, Ireland, #808
    5 Courtney Lawes – Northampton Saints, England, #826
    6 James Haskell – Wasps, England, #823
    7 Justin Tipuric – Ospreys, Wales, #786
    8 CJ Stander – Munster, Ireland, #831

    Replacements:
    16 Kristian Dacey – Cardiff Blues, Wales
    17 Allan Dell – Edinburgh Rugby, Scotland
    18 Tomas Francis – Exeter Chiefs, Wales
    19 Cory Hill – Newport Gwent Dragons, Wales
    20 Alun Wyn Jones – Ospreys, Wales, #761
    21 Gareth Davies – Scarlets, Wales
    22 Finn Russell – Glasgow Warriors, Scotland
    23 Tommy Seymour – Glasgow Warriors, Scotland, #813

    http://www.lionsrugby.com/?p=18055

    Interesting that AWJ on bench. Despite all those reinforcements they still can't rest the entire test 23! Joseph looks to be cover for for wing/centre in test 23 with Watson covering fullback.
    Only intrigue is whether or not Farrell fit and whether SOB will start or be impact replacement. Owen/AWJ to be finishers

    How does Joseph fit in to your Test backline '10'? Doesn't figure in mine. I've got Daly taking that role because I don't see Gatland dropping North even though he should.

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    I must say I'd have JJ at 13, to add x-factor. Then Te'O as a finisher. But expect Gats to play it straight and go for Farrell/Te'O/Davies, with JJ bench. Still a chance of Daly or L Williams squeezing into a start if either lays down the gauntlet on Tuesday.

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    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/93811804/lions-tour-rory-best-to-captain-second-string-lions-against-chiefs-in-final-match-before-first-test Seems Halfpenny is under some doubt because of head knock.

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