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@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@jegga said in NZ Politics:
@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@jegga She really is an albatross now
An albatross is a beautiful graceful creature , she's more like a dodo.
How about a millstone? Ugly enough for you?
Nah a millstone is useful, she ain't.
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Have been away this week and havent read back on this thread since Little did the decent thing, so apologies if already asked/answered.
Given there has been talk of LIttles hold on the leadership for a long time, or almost since he took over, and has never really gained any momentum
So this change has always been on the cards, and you could argue it should have been done earlier, however was this always the plan, to do it this close to the election, a calculated gamble to destabilise things and pick up votes before she is called upon to really show her leadership, get the new face in that most disenchanted Labour voters have been calling for?
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Interesting article here on National's likely response and the Peters factor
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2017/08/03/41111/wwsd-what-will-steven-do
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A potential clever move for Labour would be to push regional and rural development as part of the solution to housing and immigration.
The Nats (especially under Key) have continually fed the beast that is Auckland which has helped inflame the housing problems.
I can see that even Aucklanders would buy in to a slow down of adding problems so that infrastructure type projects can be the focus. I think Labour have already signaled a commitment to an Airport fast rail for example.
Targeting development in the regions is fertile ground. It may not win seats straight away but has potential on the MMP front to involve a good portion of non-voters and tell them they are relevant. -
@Kirwan said in NZ Politics:
I leave the country for a week and come back to Adhern as Labour leader?!? Will they send her to the debates in the Hindenburg II?
Lol, I go for 10 days and all hell breaks loose. I got the updates on the way home from the airport. Wow.
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@Crucial said in NZ Politics:
A potential clever move for Labour would be to push regional and rural development as part of the solution to housing and immigration.
The Nats (especially under Key) have continually fed the beast that is Auckland which has helped inflame the housing problems.
I can see that even Aucklanders would buy in to a slow down of adding problems so that infrastructure type projects can be the focus. I think Labour have already signaled a commitment to an Airport fast rail for example.
Targeting development in the regions is fertile ground. It may not win seats straight away but has potential on the MMP front to involve a good portion of non-voters and tell them they are relevant.Labour has regional development policies - they announced one for Dunedin which was centred around the IT industry, and their immigration policy includes regional skills shortages lists. There is also a commitment to light rail between Christchurch and Rolleston, with Rangiora to be added later. Agree that more would be good strategy.
Turei is stuffed - electoral offences are a massive no-go area for MPs, and now that it has been discovered that her mother was one of the flatmates for some of her time on the DPB, she has almost certainly received more than she was entitled to.
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The herald piles into Turei, I don't want her to go I want her to be a weeping sore for the greens and labour to soak up all the votes the lose so they are in the strongest negotiating position possible if National can't form a government.
In the meantime even Rachel Smalley has torn the heifer a new one which was a nice unexpected surprise.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11898947
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@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@jegga Weeping sore. I like this. The Greens don't have the balls to roll the heifer
No the heifer has been in so long she's probably more connected and stronger than anyone in the party so she's safe as.
Looking forward to the next poll, I expect a decent bump for labour and hopefully the start of some hurt for the greens.
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I'm still trying to reconcile how she can be thought highly enough of to be co leader but not good enough to be a minister in a government . It would be quite embarrassing if Shaw and whatever is number three on their list got ministerial limos and the heifer didn't.
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I think it she should have fallen on her sword. This "demotion" from the hypothetical cabinet is more like a scratch.
If Turei still co-leader she'll be having input into policy that the Greens are going to be allowed to champion in a coalition. It's like a bankrupt who cannot be a company director so he gets his wife to start up a company that he directs in substance, just not in legal form.
Out of interest, if she does resign, who takes over the female co-leader role? Genter is more of an environmentalist, and they'd need a Marxist.
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It is hugely hypocritical of the Greens, and to a lesser extent, Labour that she hasn't been made to resign and Labour haven't been demanding it given if this was anyone in the Nats, they'd be out for blood.
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@taniwharugby that's the great thing about this, her complete lack of contrition and arrogance means it isn't going to go away.
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Given her education and political stance, even back then she should be held to higher standard than Joe Public doing the same thing.
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You'd think so but her overweening arrogance and sense of entitlement makes her think she's done nothing wrong.
Which is great because it means we are getting an editorial or article a day slamming her behaviour or saying she should stand down and they are even coming from the left.
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