• Categories
Collapse

The Silver Fern

All Blacks v Pumas

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Rugby Matches
allblacksargentina
326 Posts 51 Posters 26.1k Views
All Blacks v Pumas
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • StargazerS Offline
    StargazerS Offline
    Stargazer
    wrote on last edited by Duluth
    #1

    What we know: Crotty, Cane and Crockett are available for selection. Naholo and Franks are not. Kaino will play for Auckland.

    Here's possibly a hint at who will play against the Pumas on Saturday: Barrett instead of Whitelock starting?

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/96517587/Scott-Barrett-set-to-start-for-All-Blacks-against-Argentina-in-his-home-patch

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • Chris B.C Offline
    Chris B.C Offline
    Chris B.
    wrote on last edited by Chris B.
    #2

    Lock is an interesting position for the ABs.

    We've possibly got the two best locks in the world, but then the drop-off is huge. Barrett is apparently third in line, but he's several inches short of the desired height and still pretty green. Romano's not quite good enough, Tuipolotou has not built on his early promise and Broadhurst is forced out of the game.

    Big gap for someone else to step into IMO.

    MN5M 1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • MN5M Online
    MN5M Online
    MN5
    replied to Chris B. on last edited by
    #3

    @Chris-B. said in All Blacks v Pumas:

    Lock is an interesting position for the ABs.

    We've possibly got the two best locks in the world, but then the drop-off is huge. Barrett is apparently third in line, but he's several inches short of the desired height and still pretty green. Romano's not quite good enough, Tuipolotou has not built on his early promise and Broadhurst is forced out of the game.

    Big gap for someone else to step into IMO.

    Romano seems to have led a pretty charmed life to get as many caps as he's had

    Chris B.C 1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • Chris B.C Offline
    Chris B.C Offline
    Chris B.
    replied to MN5 on last edited by
    #4

    @MN5 Yep. If he'd nailed it, Barrett wouldn't be getting a look in.

    Still, he's no orphan in that regard.

    1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • StargazerS Offline
    StargazerS Offline
    Stargazer
    wrote on last edited by
    #5

    Last year, the All Blacks selectors indicated a preference for a combination of athletic locks and power locks. They seem to do the same this year and that explains why Romano is there. While Whitelock and Barrett are more athletic locks and Retallick fits both descriptions, Romano is the best power lock available (although well behind Brodie). So I'm not surprised Romano is there, because PT - who can also be considered a power lock - is clearly not up to it at the moment.

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • Salacious CrumbS Offline
    Salacious CrumbS Offline
    Salacious Crumb
    wrote on last edited by Salacious Crumb
    #6

    AB selectors need to prioritize defence. Leaking too many tries. When was the last time ABs gave up 45 straight points?

    kiwiinmelbK No QuarterN 2 Replies Last reply
    2
  • kiwiinmelbK Offline
    kiwiinmelbK Offline
    kiwiinmelb
    replied to Salacious Crumb on last edited by
    #7

    @Salacious-Crumb said in All Blacks v Pumas:

    AB selectors need to prioritize defence. Leaking too many tries. When was the last time ABs gave up 45 straight points?

    i was thinking the same thing during the wallaby game , lions found plenty of gaps too

    1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • taniwharugbyT Offline
    taniwharugbyT Offline
    taniwharugby
    wrote on last edited by
    #8

    apparently Foster reckons we are giving them the chances through our attacking errors more so than defensive lapses

    ACT CrusaderA 1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • No QuarterN Offline
    No QuarterN Offline
    No Quarter
    replied to Salacious Crumb on last edited by
    #9

    @Salacious-Crumb said in All Blacks v Pumas:

    AB selectors need to prioritize defence. Leaking too many tries. When was the last time ABs gave up 45 straight points?

    Yeah, but, it's a balancing act between how adventurous you want to be on attack and how many points you are willing to concede.

    For example, England in 2003 were outstanding on defense. But a lot of that is because their whole attack revolved around Wilkinson kicking drop goals and penalties, so they rarely had to defend turnover ball etc.

    Wayne Smith has talked about the link between throwing the ball around and a watertight defense in the past. Typically the ABs have struck a great balance, but recently we've certainly been leaving ourselves a bit open. Not having McCaw to cover our asses probably has an impact there.

    BonesB 1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • ACT CrusaderA Do not disturb
    ACT CrusaderA Do not disturb
    ACT Crusader
    replied to taniwharugby on last edited by
    #10

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Pumas:

    apparently Foster reckons we are giving them the chances through our attacking errors more so than defensive lapses

    I'd agree with that. When we've been loose with the ball and turned it over, the Lions and Aussies have capitalised.

    A bit more patience is what is needed. Even Aaron Smith in that second Bledisloe was playing like a juiced up energizer bunny.

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • BonesB Online
    BonesB Online
    Bones
    replied to No Quarter on last edited by
    #11

    @No-Quarter Probably largely linked to the sub-par handling being demonstrated this year. We're not usually that prone to spillages and turnovers all over the show.

    1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • Billy TellB Offline
    Billy TellB Offline
    Billy Tell
    wrote on last edited by
    #12

    ALL BLACKS: Damian McKenzie, Israel Dagg, Anton Lienert-Brown, Sonny Bill Williams, Nehe Milner-Skudder, Beauden Barrett, TJ Perenara, Kieran Read (c), Ardie Savea, Vaea Fifita, Brodie Retallick, Luke Romano, Nepo Laulala, Dane Coles, Joe Moody.

    Reserves: Codie Taylor, Wyatt Crockett, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Scott Barrett, Sam Cane, Tawera Kerr-Barlow, Lima Sopoaga, Ngani Laumape.

    Return of the hot stepper.

    boobooB 1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • boobooB Offline
    boobooB Offline
    booboo
    replied to Billy Tell on last edited by
    #13

    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks v Pumas:

    ALL BLACKS: Damian McKenzie, Israel Dagg, Anton Lienert-Brown, Sonny Bill Williams, Nehe Milner-Skudder, Beauden Barrett, TJ Perenara, Kieran Read (c), Ardie Savea, Vaea Fifita, Brodie Retallick, Luke Romano, Nepo Laulala, Dane Coles, Joe Moody.

    Reserves: Codie Taylor, Wyatt Crockett, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Scott Barrett, Sam Cane, Tawera Kerr-Barlow, Lima Sopoaga, Ngani Laumape.

    Return of the hot stepper.

    Good to see Nehe back.

    Little bit of rotation without going OTT. Good.

    Sammy deserves a rest.

    Would be fun to watch Laumape and Dubs together although I don't expect that to be plan A.

    Only question for me is TKB on the bench. No problem in as much as he is clearly in the 3 best halfbacks, but as he's leaving are we missing a chance to get another 9 blooded? Or is Weber next in line and still not 100% so TKB is stop gap as nobody else is ready?

    CrucialC UncoU 2 Replies Last reply
    0
  • kiwiinmelbK Offline
    kiwiinmelbK Offline
    kiwiinmelb
    wrote on last edited by
    #14

    interesting team , you can visualize everything clicking , and them running in some great tries ,
    and you can visualize it going the other way , where it doesnt quite run that smoothly , and they make hard work of it

    1 Reply Last reply
    5
  • JayCeeJ Offline
    JayCeeJ Offline
    JayCee
    wrote on last edited by
    #15

    Oh yeah, Ben Smith is done for the year.

    With McKenzie, Dagg, NMS and Barrett, I think we have fullback covered.

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • kiwiinmelbK Offline
    kiwiinmelbK Offline
    kiwiinmelb
    wrote on last edited by
    #16

    NMS and Dmac together in the back 3 is very short arse ,

    Opposition coaches would see an opportunity there , to send some tall guys through to compete in the air

    C 1 Reply Last reply
    2
  • C Offline
    C Offline
    Crash
    replied to kiwiinmelb on last edited by Crash
    #17

    @kiwiinmelb Izzy and SBW will just have to work doubly hard on D to make up for the lack of height then...SBW owes us one anyway

    taniwharugbyT CrucialC 2 Replies Last reply
    1
  • taniwharugbyT Offline
    taniwharugbyT Offline
    taniwharugby
    replied to Crash on last edited by
    #18

    @Crash think he owes more than. One, although I guess we at least won the last test

    1 Reply Last reply
    2
  • CrucialC Offline
    CrucialC Offline
    Crucial
    replied to booboo on last edited by
    #19

    @booboo said in All Blacks v Pumas:

    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks v Pumas:

    ALL BLACKS: Damian McKenzie, Israel Dagg, Anton Lienert-Brown, Sonny Bill Williams, Nehe Milner-Skudder, Beauden Barrett, TJ Perenara, Kieran Read (c), Ardie Savea, Vaea Fifita, Brodie Retallick, Luke Romano, Nepo Laulala, Dane Coles, Joe Moody.

    Reserves: Codie Taylor, Wyatt Crockett, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Scott Barrett, Sam Cane, Tawera Kerr-Barlow, Lima Sopoaga, Ngani Laumape.

    Return of the hot stepper.

    Good to see Nehe back.

    Little bit of rotation without going OTT. Good.

    Sammy deserves a rest.

    Would be fun to watch Laumape and Dubs together although I don't expect that to be plan A.

    Only question for me is TKB on the bench. No problem in as much as he is clearly in the 3 best halfbacks, but as he's leaving are we missing a chance to get another 9 blooded? Or is Weber next in line and still not 100% so TKB is stop gap as nobody else is ready?

    I think the options are way open for halfbacks. I'd say a close eye is being kept on the NPC with the likes of TTT and JT as youngsters finding their feet.

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • CrucialC Offline
    CrucialC Offline
    Crucial
    replied to Crash on last edited by
    #20

    @Crash said in All Blacks v Pumas:

    @kiwiinmelb Izzy and SBW will just have to work doubly hard on D to make up for the lack of height then...SBW owes us one anyway

    Yeah, he could drop a shoulder into any kick chasers.....

    1 Reply Last reply
    3

All Blacks v Pumas
Rugby Matches
allblacksargentina
  • Login

  • Don't have an account? Register

  • Login or register to search.
  • First post
    Last post
0
  • Categories
  • Login

  • Don't have an account? Register

  • Login or register to search.