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Bonus is doing this with Mrs boo is she'll look damn hot at the end of it - so my motivation to keep up with her <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/rugby/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /><br />
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Plus you'll have more energy to keep up!!<br />
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+1. I don't really drink that much any more, and I think I enjoy it more for that reason.<br />
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Eating control is the way to go. The first ten kegs will just drop off, and then you can start getting serious about the exercise <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/rugby/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' /><br />
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Keeping all the info in a spreadsheet also helps. Weekly measure of weight, chest, waist, and hips is as great motivator.<br />
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Yeah I do that as well on an excel thing at home, If I do a rep or two less than last time I try and think why ( poor sleep, stress or whatever ) and make sure I do the same or better next time. How the shirts/jeans feel is a good indicator too although they are a bit snug right out of the wash sometimes.<br />
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Regarding the booze I treated myself to a lager from New World last night which was no where near as satisfying as I thought it would be ! -
I also hardly drink nowdays and when I do I go low carb and its actually not bad. Only have a couple per fortnight anyway so minimal impact.<br />
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Another good site to track your eats is myfitnesspal.com. I run this on my blackberry and track everything I eat. Still think even 1850 is low. I'm steadily dropping weight on 2000cals at 80kg.<br />
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I drink f-all, but I also dont think about denying myself, if I wanna beer/wine/drambuie, I have one (I mean cooking steak on the BBQ just aint the same without a beer in hand <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/rugby/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' /> even though I use my BBQ pretty much weekly, I dont always have a beer)<br />
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There is always something in the fridge or cupboard, but I just dont get through it very quickly.<br />
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Check-in day.<br />
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110.0kg even. Lost 1kg, 3.5kg overall in 2 weeks.<br />
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Rapt with that as had looong weekend away and allowed myself to relax wrt to intake (both solid and - ahem - liquid .... not over the top just more than I intended.)<br />
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Conversely did a reasonable amount of exercise walking through bush, up hill and down dale to look at waterfalls and such like. Mrs boo dragged me out of bed before sun rise this morning (remembering this is Qld and the sun rises at 5:15am) for an hour walk. Mrs boo less happy with her result after weekend despite exercise.<br />
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Trouble with taking time off work is that it impacted on Fern time (i.e., have to go like a bugger to get stuff done before I go away ... and will have to do same to catch up) so have not had time to come back on here and reply at all - or peruse the other threads - so sorry guys. <br />
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Measurements: <br />
Chest 110cm (-1cm)<br />
Waist 108cm (nil)<br />
Hips 109cm (-1cm)<br />
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1600 cals - I don't even get down to that when leaning down - think about 1700. And I end up with hbodyfat of 2%, so look out!!<br />
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Be careful about doing this, lsiing weight, and then going back to how you used to eat. If the eating plan you are following is not sustainable for the rest of your life, then it is really a waste of time, and can slot into 'fad diet' category. If that makes sense. It's one of my favourite hates, when people diet, lose weight, hit thir target, and then resume eating the same way they did when they were fat, what the hell do they expect!!!!<br />
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anyway, good work!<br />
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and 'it's all fluid', yup, when you first start cutting out all the crap carbs and things, your body lets go a ton of water. Apparently for each carb molecule your body takes it, it also takes in two water molocules. So you are a giant sponge!! -
^ What that guy said.<br />
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I've come to accept the changes I've made, and that every luxury must be followed by disciplined eating and exercise.<br />
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There is a point where the volume of luxuries simply cannot be balanced.<br />
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This is the investment. The return is looking fitter than I ever have, and eventually a body like a (somewhat hairy) male model <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/rugby/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> -
Check-in day.<br />
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108.5kg even. Lost 1.5kg, 5.0kg overall in 3 weeks.<br />
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Measurements:<br />
Chest 108cm (-2cm, -3 overall)<br />
Waist 104cm (104cm -4 overall)<br />
Hips 108cm (-1cm, -2 overall)<br />
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Thanks all for the advice re the calories. Have looked around at some more sources and agree that the 1600 seems very low. Checked the book that the dude gave us and it is 1600 that he wants me on ... so I don't know. It's working and I'm not too hungry. Had a couple of days when I'm rumbling just before bed so have a nibble (whereas previously I'd scoff 4 or more bits of bread and butter ... or should that be butter with a bit of bread ...) which probably puts me slightly over.<br />
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And a couple of nights away over the last fortnight and have gone over the allocation - but obviosly have managed to keep things reasomably in check. If I plug in my exercise my net calories always stay below the 1600 ... but I'm trying to concentrate on reducing intake of crap first and foremost and not wanting to think I can exercise my way out of a pig-out.<br />
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Have seriously cut down the alcohol (haven't got around to posting on TR's thread on off topic - will do so when I get a few moments), and limited myself to one mid-strength beer (Friday arvo work) and two glasses of Sav blanc (Saturday arvo). As I said above the effect of the reduced alcohol is two-fold (or three-fold or more-fold) as a. I'm not taking in those calories, b. not snacking/eating as I'm drinkning, c. I'm more inclined to exercise/be active.<br />
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Will do my best not to yo-yo diet Bart. And thanks for clarifying that fluid thing! <br />
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And Nick, at 44 I doubt whether I'll get back to being the fittest I've ever been - back in my ealry 20s (gulp 20 years ago) was 96kg with absolutely SFA body fat, gymming my heart out, playing footy and training and trying to turn what little talent I had into a starting spot in my second division club's senior team. Can't see that but another 8-10 kg would be good. -
At 35 I aim to be fitter ( all round ) than I have ever been, I was very lean ( but no muscles ) and fit in my late teens, thought I was bulking up the right way when I went from the late 70's to about 95kg but much of this was down to filling out and a combo of a few weights but mainly too much beer. This all culminated in hitting 108kg in London which even at my height ( 1.9m ) was too much.
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The Heathrow injection!!<br />
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I hit the UK a toned 84kg and had been trying to gain weight with all manner of supplements for about a year or more...within 5 months of hitting the UK I was 105kg!<br />
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Oddly, even when I was very fit playing footy over there, gym, running, training I was playing at around 98kg, now arond 95kg. -
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[quote name='booboo' timestamp='1349141018' post='314740']And Nick, at 44 I doubt whether I'll get back to being the fittest I've ever been - back in my ealry 20s (gulp 20 years ago) was 96kg with absolutely SFA body fat, gymming my heart out, playing footy and training and trying to turn what little talent I had into a starting spot in my second division club's senior team. Can't see that but another 8-10 kg would be good.<br />
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Well, at 42 myself, I have to disagree with you. Maybe not to your best, but you can still be very fit. I regularly beat a friend who is a runner and over 10 years younger/10kg lighter on the long hill climbs (although I can't run like him anymore). I'm working on improving my other fitness as well. I just need to rest more (recovery) and eat carefully, with enough protein.<br />
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I reckon my (run) fitness is up there as fit as I have been (now 38) and able to run distances and tracks I used to struggle with when I was playing footy, gyming, chasing tail, boozing etc, although I wonder if diet has played it's part in having better energy levels to fight off fatigue whereas when I was younger I'd eat and drink alot of bad stuff but think it was ok cos I was doing so much exercise & sports
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I think a lot of it is willpower. Look at the better track athletes - a lot of them don't hit their peak until their late 20s, and part of that is discipline.<br />
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I was never into distance running or any of that shit, so I can't really compare what I do now to my youth. What I [i]do[/i] know is:<br />
<br />- I'd never run 10km in my life until a week after my 36th birthday<br />
- I couldn't break 30 minutes for 5km until I was 35<br />
- I didn't even have the willpower to run 1km in my 20s, or to control my eating, or to realise how it was affecting my marriage<br />
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Age = wisdom, and you'd be surprised what you can achieve as age catches up with you <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/rugby/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> I've got a mate who rode Adelaide-Darwin unsupported when he was your age booboo, and then Cairns-Brisbane a few months later.<br />
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I aim to be that hard, lean old bastard that my daughter's boyfriends learn to fear and respect <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/rugby/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />
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I dont think I will ever be as fit as I was in my teens but I am sure a hell of a lot stronger that I have ever been before and hopefully my fitness levels are still pretty good. I eat a hell of a lot better now too but like taniwharugby I prob got away with it due to the amount of running i did.<br />
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I will probably get in to running again one day when I'm over 40 but it'll be long distance and not fast middle distance running. Dont think I will ever do 6km again in under 20mins like I used to do in my road race days. Have no real desire too either! -
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107.8kg even. Lost 0.7kg, 5.7kg overall in 4 weeks.<br />
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Measurements:<br />
Chest 106cm (-2cm, -5 overall)<br />
Waist 104cm (0cm, -4 overall)<br />
Hips 102cm (-6cm, -7 overall)<br />
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Reading a good book at the moment called 'power eating' on what you should eat for traiing needs etc. I think just to live, your body needs about (from memory, will go back and find out) 1200 for women and 1400 calories for men.<br />
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Thanks for that Bart ... at least I'm over the absolute minimum!! Mrs boo's intake is close to that though.
