Too many pick-a-nic baskets ...
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1600 cals - I don't even get down to that when leaning down - think about 1700. And I end up with hbodyfat of 2%, so look out!!<br />
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Be careful about doing this, lsiing weight, and then going back to how you used to eat. If the eating plan you are following is not sustainable for the rest of your life, then it is really a waste of time, and can slot into 'fad diet' category. If that makes sense. It's one of my favourite hates, when people diet, lose weight, hit thir target, and then resume eating the same way they did when they were fat, what the hell do they expect!!!!<br />
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anyway, good work!<br />
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and 'it's all fluid', yup, when you first start cutting out all the crap carbs and things, your body lets go a ton of water. Apparently for each carb molecule your body takes it, it also takes in two water molocules. So you are a giant sponge!! -
^ What that guy said.<br />
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I've come to accept the changes I've made, and that every luxury must be followed by disciplined eating and exercise.<br />
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There is a point where the volume of luxuries simply cannot be balanced.<br />
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This is the investment. The return is looking fitter than I ever have, and eventually a body like a (somewhat hairy) male model <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/rugby/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> -
Check-in day.<br />
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108.5kg even. Lost 1.5kg, 5.0kg overall in 3 weeks.<br />
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Measurements:<br />
Chest 108cm (-2cm, -3 overall)<br />
Waist 104cm (104cm -4 overall)<br />
Hips 108cm (-1cm, -2 overall)<br />
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Thanks all for the advice re the calories. Have looked around at some more sources and agree that the 1600 seems very low. Checked the book that the dude gave us and it is 1600 that he wants me on ... so I don't know. It's working and I'm not too hungry. Had a couple of days when I'm rumbling just before bed so have a nibble (whereas previously I'd scoff 4 or more bits of bread and butter ... or should that be butter with a bit of bread ...) which probably puts me slightly over.<br />
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And a couple of nights away over the last fortnight and have gone over the allocation - but obviosly have managed to keep things reasomably in check. If I plug in my exercise my net calories always stay below the 1600 ... but I'm trying to concentrate on reducing intake of crap first and foremost and not wanting to think I can exercise my way out of a pig-out.<br />
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Have seriously cut down the alcohol (haven't got around to posting on TR's thread on off topic - will do so when I get a few moments), and limited myself to one mid-strength beer (Friday arvo work) and two glasses of Sav blanc (Saturday arvo). As I said above the effect of the reduced alcohol is two-fold (or three-fold or more-fold) as a. I'm not taking in those calories, b. not snacking/eating as I'm drinkning, c. I'm more inclined to exercise/be active.<br />
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Will do my best not to yo-yo diet Bart. And thanks for clarifying that fluid thing! <br />
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And Nick, at 44 I doubt whether I'll get back to being the fittest I've ever been - back in my ealry 20s (gulp 20 years ago) was 96kg with absolutely SFA body fat, gymming my heart out, playing footy and training and trying to turn what little talent I had into a starting spot in my second division club's senior team. Can't see that but another 8-10 kg would be good. -
At 35 I aim to be fitter ( all round ) than I have ever been, I was very lean ( but no muscles ) and fit in my late teens, thought I was bulking up the right way when I went from the late 70's to about 95kg but much of this was down to filling out and a combo of a few weights but mainly too much beer. This all culminated in hitting 108kg in London which even at my height ( 1.9m ) was too much.
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The Heathrow injection!!<br />
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I hit the UK a toned 84kg and had been trying to gain weight with all manner of supplements for about a year or more...within 5 months of hitting the UK I was 105kg!<br />
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Oddly, even when I was very fit playing footy over there, gym, running, training I was playing at around 98kg, now arond 95kg. -
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[quote name='booboo' timestamp='1349141018' post='314740']And Nick, at 44 I doubt whether I'll get back to being the fittest I've ever been - back in my ealry 20s (gulp 20 years ago) was 96kg with absolutely SFA body fat, gymming my heart out, playing footy and training and trying to turn what little talent I had into a starting spot in my second division club's senior team. Can't see that but another 8-10 kg would be good.<br />
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Well, at 42 myself, I have to disagree with you. Maybe not to your best, but you can still be very fit. I regularly beat a friend who is a runner and over 10 years younger/10kg lighter on the long hill climbs (although I can't run like him anymore). I'm working on improving my other fitness as well. I just need to rest more (recovery) and eat carefully, with enough protein.<br />
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I reckon my (run) fitness is up there as fit as I have been (now 38) and able to run distances and tracks I used to struggle with when I was playing footy, gyming, chasing tail, boozing etc, although I wonder if diet has played it's part in having better energy levels to fight off fatigue whereas when I was younger I'd eat and drink alot of bad stuff but think it was ok cos I was doing so much exercise & sports
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I think a lot of it is willpower. Look at the better track athletes - a lot of them don't hit their peak until their late 20s, and part of that is discipline.<br />
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I was never into distance running or any of that shit, so I can't really compare what I do now to my youth. What I [i]do[/i] know is:<br />
<br />- I'd never run 10km in my life until a week after my 36th birthday<br />
- I couldn't break 30 minutes for 5km until I was 35<br />
- I didn't even have the willpower to run 1km in my 20s, or to control my eating, or to realise how it was affecting my marriage<br />
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Age = wisdom, and you'd be surprised what you can achieve as age catches up with you <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/rugby/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> I've got a mate who rode Adelaide-Darwin unsupported when he was your age booboo, and then Cairns-Brisbane a few months later.<br />
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I aim to be that hard, lean old bastard that my daughter's boyfriends learn to fear and respect <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/rugby/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />
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I dont think I will ever be as fit as I was in my teens but I am sure a hell of a lot stronger that I have ever been before and hopefully my fitness levels are still pretty good. I eat a hell of a lot better now too but like taniwharugby I prob got away with it due to the amount of running i did.<br />
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I will probably get in to running again one day when I'm over 40 but it'll be long distance and not fast middle distance running. Dont think I will ever do 6km again in under 20mins like I used to do in my road race days. Have no real desire too either! -
Check-in day.<br />
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107.8kg even. Lost 0.7kg, 5.7kg overall in 4 weeks.<br />
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Measurements:<br />
Chest 106cm (-2cm, -5 overall)<br />
Waist 104cm (0cm, -4 overall)<br />
Hips 102cm (-6cm, -7 overall)<br />
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Reading a good book at the moment called 'power eating' on what you should eat for traiing needs etc. I think just to live, your body needs about (from memory, will go back and find out) 1200 for women and 1400 calories for men.<br />
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Well, at 42 myself, I have to disagree with you. Maybe [b]not to your best[/b], but you can still be very fit.[/quote]<br />
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I think a lot of it is [b]willpower[/b].<br />
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I aim to be that hard, lean old bastard that my daughter's boyfriends learn to fear and respect <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/rugby/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' /><br />
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I dont think I will ever be as fit as I was in my teens but I am sure a hell of a lot stronger that I have ever been before and hopefully my fitness levels are still pretty good. I eat a hell of a lot better now too but like taniwharugby I prob got away with it due to the amount of running i did.<br />
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I will probably get in to running again one day when I'm over 40 but it'll be long distance and not fast middle distance running. Dont think I will ever do 6km again in under 20mins like I used to do in my road race days. [b]Have no real desire too either![/b]<br />
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My motivation is different. Back in those days as a very average rugby player wanting to play club footy in Auckland, albeit for a second division rugby club (the mighty Eden), and play against and not get hurt by some seriously good rugby players (becuase we did play 1st div clubs occassionally - and they did at times have their rep players back) and not embarrass myself I knew I had to train my ring out just to make the Seniors. <br />
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I don't (currently) have that same goal to motivate me now to thrash myself sprinting up a hill to the point of vomiting.<br />
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Yes I want to be fitter and leaner and scare Ms boo jrs boyfriends (I like that Nick!) but I'm not currently envisaging committing myself to any sport that gives me that external motivation that would make me want to feel sick to get fit.<br />
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I'm currently motivated by being 107.8kg, being 44 and overweight and thinking that is heart attack territory and I don't run around with my daughter as much as I used to even 2 years ago.<br />
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Rugby never helped me lose weight. In fact, because of the time commitment and recovery, and the misguided belief that it was getting me fit, I didn't do any other real exercise during season. Because I was wearing so many hats at the club I couldn't enjoy the social side either, because otherwise Mrs TA would have flipped (was already blowing away half the weekend on rugby plus training and admin during the week).<br />
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Once September rolled around, I was more interested in enjoying my weekend again and that meant beer and food, and no exercise.<br />
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Its really inspiring reading these stories of people turning their lives around. While we're all older and wiser now would any of you have done things any differently back then? I used to eat ice cream milkshakes for breakfast and on weekends would often eat a packet of chips as soon as I got up. Every day after work I ate nachos. Every single day. Some of the shit I used to put into my body during my "prime" years makes me shudder. But I probably needed that "binge" period to realise that I couldnt just eat anything and hope to function to the best of my ability.<br />
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One thing I hate about alot of overweight people is them shifting the blame onto the fast food companies, the govt or anyone else. As if it would have made any difference if the nutritional info at KFC was visible or not. None of that happens on this site and its cool to see people taking action and seeing results rather than blaming someone else or waiting for a miracle cure.<br />
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What I do find astonishing is how little people actually know or are taught about nutrition and what is required to lose weight. I recall when I started packing on the beef that my mum advised me to eat more fruit!!! Many think that all breakfast cerials, muesli bars, yoghurts and milks are healthy. They buy tubs of 99% fat free Yogo without even looking at the sugar content. -
[quote name='Rancid Schnitzel' timestamp='1349772281' post='316618']As if it would have made any difference if the nutritional info at KFC was visible or not. [/quote]<br />
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It does help someone like me make an informed choice in the event I do find myself eating "junk". Even if it is rolling the dice as bit because all the info is based on average quantities. So in that way it is a good thing, but yeah it won't help the family of four who down a bucket of chicken there twice a week.<br />
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A bloke at work just got back from a Singapore holiday and said the shopping was good, but he couldn't find any clothes that fit his fat arse - I pointed out that the pizza he was eating for lunch was three quarters of his daily energy needs and asked him how the buffet at the hotel was...<br />
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As for the rest of what you say above - I occasionally look back and regret the years I spent in gluttony but also think "but fuck it tasted good!" And I had a good time, relative to my experiences up to that point. Now my perspective has changed and I'm having even more fun than ever. Food tastes better because it just DOES, not because it is in endless supply. The what-if scenarios would drive you mad if you thought about them long enough, so I don't bother.<br />
