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    @cantab79 said in Crusaders 2018:

    People can criticise the make-up of the Crusaders squad all they like. The reality is that the Crusaders are operating within the NZRU rules, so if posters have an issue with too many foreign players they should take it up with the NZRU.

    Nah. I'll just whinge about it here.

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    So, Jed Brown is going to be out for most of the Super season. I was thinking he should be signed as openside cover for Todd and Samu, but I don't think he's crucial enough to warrant signing injured.

    Other "in-region" options seem like Manawatu's Bedwell-Curtis (though seemed like he got used more at 6 than 7?); Vern Fredericks (he's playing 7 for the Mako$ this year, but that's a new development - he's more an 8/6 to my mind); Billy Harmon; Ethan Blackadder.

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    According to the ODT, Mike Delaney is believed to be heading to the Crusaders for 2018.
    It's possible the Landers will end up with Marty Mcckenzie as a result

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    Not sure I like the idea of Delaney hogging a spot in the squad for the entire season. I'd have thought Tim Bateman would do just as good a job as an injury crisis 10 in a one-off week.

    If Mo'unga or Hunt were to be injured for longer than that, then you call in Delaney or Breen or Christie to the squad.

    I'd hate to see us lose Will Jordan or Josh McKay just so that Delaney can play club rugby in Christchurch at the Crusaders' expense.

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    Blues should have taken Delaney after black went down

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    @muddyriver Maybe they'll get Beaver?

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    @tim

    If Delaney is going to the Crusaders and Marty McKenzie is available he would be a reasonable option to replace Black.

    He has a good combination with Perofeta at Taranaki where they swap between 10 & 15. The Blues could copy that and not use Collins..

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    I'd rather not have Delaney at the Blues.

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    @kiwimurph probably be a good guy to have to mentor the young guys...otherwise is a lot of inexperience in that inside channel at the Blues.

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    @taniwharugby I personally think that is overrated. The Blues 10s need game time to develop. Blues had similar thoughts when they signed Jimmy Cowan a few years back on the back of strong Mitre 10 Cup form - that didn't work.

    Anyway back to the thread - Crusaders look like they will have a very settled and deep squad. They could be a real chance at the first repeat Super titles since the Chiefs of 2012-13.

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    @kiwimurph What will probably hurt the Crusaders most is the unavailability of Moody and Franks until some time in May (and to a lesser extent Dagg's injury). Crockett and Ala'alato are fine replacements; I'm not so sure about the players who take their spots on the bench though.

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    @kiwimurph fair enough...I wasn't meaning specifically at 10 either, if Pulu and/or SBW aren't there you end up with a very inexperienced 9/10/12 axis.

    Having someone in the background is always a good thing, Dan Bowden said playing alongside Holwell was invaluable for him (years ago) and his learning (given Bowden saw himself more as a 10)

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    @stargazer said in Crusaders 2018:

    @kiwimurph What will probably hurt the Crusaders most is the unavailability of Moody and Franks until some time in May (and to a lesser extent Dagg's injury). Crockett and Ala'alato are fine replacements; I'm not so sure about the players who take their spots on the bench though.

    Apparently Ollie Jager is pretty good ...

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    And Perry, too.

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    The Crusaders squad for 2018 has been announced. I have added the position where I think they'll most likely to play, even though they may officially also be capable of playing in other positions:

    CRUSADERS SQUAD

    PROPS
    Michael Alaalatoa
    Wyatt Crockett
    Owen Franks
    Oliver Jager
    Joe Moody
    Tim Perry

    HOOKERS
    Ben Funnell
    Andrew Makalio
    Codie Taylor

    LOCKS
    Scott Barrett
    Luke Romano
    Quinten Strange
    Sam Whitelock

    LOOSE FORWARDS
    Ethan Blackadder
    Mitchell Dunshea
    Billy Harmon
    Kieran Read
    Pete Samu
    Tom Sanders
    Jordan Taufua
    Matt Todd

    HALFBACKS
    Mitchell Drummond
    Bryn Hall
    Jack Stratton

    FIRST FIVE-EIGHTHS
    Mike Delany
    Mitchell Hunt
    Richie Mo'unga

    MIDFIELD BACKS
    Tim Bateman
    Ryan Crotty
    Jack Goodhue

    OUTSIDE BACKS
    George Bridge
    Israel Dagg
    Braydon Ennor
    David Havili
    Will Jordan
    Jone Macilai
    Manasa Mataele
    Seta Tamanivalu

    Jed Brown (injured) ➡ Ethan Blackadder
    Heiden Bedwell-Curtis ➡ Billy Harmon
    Leon Fukofuka ➡ Ere Enari (injured) ➡ Jack Stratton
    Marty McKenzie ➡ Mike Delaney
    Sean Wainui, Sione Fifita, Digby Ioane ➡ Braydon Ennor, Will Jordan

    http://crusaders.co.nz/news/1158-seven-new-names-in-2018-bnz-crusaders-squad

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    Good to see the back of Wainui, Fukafuka and MacKenzie....

    Jeez they were some boneheaded signings by Blackadder. None deserved the multi year deals they were on.

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/98452433/crusaders-unsure-if-all-blacks-captain-kieran-read-will-be-available-for-start-of-season

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    So with Read a likely non-starter and Taufua still recovering from his broken arm in the early rounds we might need to call up Whetu Douglas to cover No 8 again!

    ... or more seriously - and in a similar vein - I'd be happy to get Jordan Manihera involved for those early rounds.

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    Happy enough with that squad. Only hope Delaney is there for a mentoring role and not to actually play any games...

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