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  • AllstarA Offline
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    Beervana is on in Wellington this weekend. Anyone else going? I'm going the Saturday afternoon session

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  • nostrildamusN Online
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    [quote name='Allstar' timestamp='1325242493' post='264998']<br />
    You've found German Kölsch in New Zealand?? I have never seen any. I'd love to be able to find Hannen or Diebels Alt Bier in New Zealand, but I don't fancy my chances.<br />
    <br />
    Had a curry out west Auckland last night, and tried Haywards 5000. I really quite liked it, it went well with the food, and also had a bit of a kick to it (probably because it was 7% alcohol [img]http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.png[/img]) [url="http://www.sabmiller.in/brands_haywards_5000.html"]http://www.sabmiller...wards_5000.html[/url]<br />
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    Been to Hallertau at Riverhead and tried their Kölsch (no umlaut though)? [url="http://www.hallertau.co.nz/beer/"]http://www.hallertau.co.nz/beer/[/url]?

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    [quote name='nostrildamus' timestamp='1345191527' post='304679']<br />
    Been to Hallertau at Riverhead and tried their Kölsch (no umlaut though)? [url="http://www.hallertau.co.nz/beer/"]http://www.hallertau.co.nz/beer/[/url]?<br />
    [/quote]<br />
    <br />
    Might have to chase that down tomorrow at Beervana. In German it has an ö, guess they deem it unnecessary in English.

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  • AllstarA Offline
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    seems there won't be much of a presence of Halltertau there. I wonder if it's getting too exclusive now?<br />
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    Also, who the fuck invited DB, Lion and Independent Breweries? IMO Issacs, Monteiths, Boundary Rd. Macs etc don't really have a place at somthing like this. (I almost hash tagged that)

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    The Resident, Boundary Road Breweries, too hoppy for my liking!!

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    [quote name='Allstar' timestamp='1345202529' post='304705']<br />
    seems there won't be much of a presence of Halltertau there. I wonder if it's getting too exclusive now?<br />
    <br />
    Also, who the fuck invited DB, Lion and Independent Breweries? IMO Issacs, Monteiths, Boundary Rd. Macs etc don't really have a place at somthing like this. (I almost hash tagged that)<br />
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    I disagree. Remember that Beervana grew out of being a public session to sample the wares of the breweries competing in the Beer awards. In fact if it wasn't for Lion there would probably be no Beervana as they supply and maintain all of the hardware and kit for free.<br />
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    No one forces you to try their products and if anything their presence has encouraged the creation of a mainstream 'cheaper' option of variety beers, widely available to all and expanding the tastebuds of the general punter. People often get introduced to craft styles through the likes of Monteiths/ Macs and Boundary Rd. Give your average beer drinker a bottle of Epic and it's too big a leap. These guys fill a middle ground.<br />
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    I love craft beer, but it's also farkin expensive to drink all the time therefore I also love having the option of dropping a notch to one of these others at a reasonable price and still getting something way more flavourful than your standard drop.<br />
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    Besides that, them being there opens their eyes to what many consumers want and can only help point them in the right direction.<br />
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    TR, I gather you are talking about the IPA? That's a good example of what I'm talking about above. If the standard Boundary Rd brews are in the middle between the bland and the extreme, these 'Resident' one are just upping it another notch and even that is taking it too far for those that aren't keen on strongly flavoured beers.<br />
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    I tend to agree with you about the 'in your face' APA/IPA overkill in NZ at the moment though. I prefer the more balanced use of hops in something like the Croucher Pilsner or Emersons Pilsner. You can taste the hops, they add character but don't dominate.<br />
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    There was a funny post on FB from Wanaka Beerworks the other day. They were pointing out that they didn't get any medals this year and maybe they should have just thrown lots of hops in their brew instead. I tend to agree. This particular brewery is quite innovative in it's use of additions to the brew, using herbs and spices in interesting ways and playing around a lot with different malt roastings to get caramel depth into their beers. There is nothing wrong with the quality of the brewing at all and I find their stuff not only interesting but tasty and very good food beer.

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    sorry, was the Pilsner I think...

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  • AllstarA Offline
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    funny you mention that Crucial, was having a yarn to the guy from Boundary Road at Beervana. He was pretty much making the point you did, which I guess is a fair call.<br />
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    Boundary etc certainly are a nice middle ground when you want to have a few beers and still drink something nice. There was also another sub-brand of Independent Breweries I hadn't seen before - The<br />
    Resident. If you like their other stuff, keep an eye out for it.<br />
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    I really like the hoppy flavour, but it was nice to get some variety at Beervana. Did mention to Luke of Epic that I did like the change he made with the Message in a Bottle. It was much more subtle than the usual in your face hoppy taste,

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    James Squire "150 Lashes" Pale Ale for the win!<br />
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    [img]http://www.beercartel.com.au/WebRoot/ecshared01/Shops/BeerCartel/4FE0/53EA/3504/2BD9/A10E/C0A8/D240/CE17/James_Squire_150_Lashes_Pale_Ale.png[/img]

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    Stoke Bomber biscuit beer, a dark lager, great drop in the sunshine while cooking some steaks!<br />
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    [img]https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/432335_10151361090061834_1653571985_n.jpg[/img]

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    Any Suggestions for white/wheat beer? Just had a Flensburger Weizen and it was quite nice. Def enjoy Hoegaarden but haven't been sold on some NZ boutique wheat beers - too many flavours like Banana and liquorice being added!

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    [quote name='Paekakboyz' timestamp='1355209981' post='332104']Any Suggestions for white/wheat beer? Just had a Flensburger Weizen and it was quite nice. Def enjoy Hoegaarden but haven't been sold on some NZ boutique wheat beers - too many flavours like Banana and liquorice being added![/quote]<br />
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    Emersons Weissbier. <br />
    Three Boys Wheat<br />
    Wanaka Beerworks- Aoraki White

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    Erdinger is a nice drop...<br />
    <br />
    I also had a Monteiths Wheat beer (I think it was monteiths) and it was quite nice, wife bought me a 6 pack of some other wheat beer, that I havent started yet, and I had not heard of it so will put the name up if it is any good.

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  • AllstarA Offline
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    there's always good old Schöfferhofer wheat beer. Can find that round usually. Got one from Thorndon New World the other day.<br />
    <br />
    There are of course at least two types. Hefe being unfiltered, and kristall being the filtered type. Both are nice for different reasons.<br />
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    I think you can also get Franziskaner wheat beer in NZ too.

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  • PaekakboyzP Offline
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    Ha ha 7 good leads there guys - cheers. Didn't know about the Hefe/Kristall difference either - how would describe the effect on flavour Allstar?

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    Crafty beggars wheat as is what I have chilling in my fridge....yet to try one, may do so tonight

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  • HoorooH Offline
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    Most likely would have been mentioned on here already but I tried the Harringtons Kiwi Draught last night. Blimmen Bewdaful! Prolly one of my fav beers

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    [quote name='taniwharugby' timestamp='1355337863' post='332334']<br />
    Crafty beggars wheat as is what I have chilling in my fridge....yet to try one, may do so tonight<br />
    [/quote]<br />
    <br />
    nice refreshing drop, light fruity taste, and only 4% too.<br />
    <br />
    It was Monteiths Apricot Wheat beer I had, which was nice

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    Bloody thread got me going on the Wheat Beers this weekend.<br />
    <br />
    Although I mentioned it above from memory I hadn't had an Emerson's Weissbier for quite a while so that was the Friday night treat. Can confirm that it's a fine drop. Unfiltered but not too cloudy (so not too yeasty), has the right refreshing spice notes and has avoided being too fruity. A Hoegaarden that's a little clearer and less 'orange' flavour.<br />
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    I picked up a pack of those 'Crafty Beggars' (Which is a bandwagon brand from Lion). I have nothing against the big breweries getting on board, just get a little peeved when they try and hide their involvement, why not just be upfront? If they can make something that tastes good at a price I can afford the all good.<br />
    I thought the Wheat Beer was refreshing but very light in flavour (I guess they have to cut costs somewhere). Certainly worth picking up to drink ice cold at an afternoon BBQ though as the alc content is not high.

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    I liked that it was only 4%, which IMO was what helped the lighter flavour...<br />
    <br />
    As to being a Lion Brand, as you say, they should really say it, as hiding will make the beer snobs even more [url="http://www.beerandbrewer.com/blog/Neil_Miller-_NZ/post/Marketing_ploy_to_make_craft_beer_drinkers_vomit_with_rage/"]enraged[/url] I personally thought it was a nice fresh drop, it may be some time before I pick up this 6 pack again (more through the fact I like to try something new when Isee it than anything to do with Lion being involved)

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