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  • TordahT Offline
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    @toddy said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    Defensively the two are close but on attack the two are miles apart.

    I disagree, Savea's defence is not international standard for an openside IMO, Todd is way better defensively.

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    How so this year? Savea has played 200 less minutes but made more tackles, made more dominant tackles.

    I would think that Todd works harder at the breakdown.

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    @toddy I think on attack they just have different styles. Todd has great hands and is a brilliant link man, Ardie...runs lots and thrashes his head around. I don't think he's markedly better. I know which style suits the ABs better.

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    @bones Ardie has more meters, more passes, though less offloads.

    An example of Todd's lack of form compared to last year - he's more than twice as likely to knock on than Brad Toaster for hands Shields. Just let that sink in.

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    Starting XV?

    Moody (F)/Taylor/Franks (F)/Whitelock (S)/Barrett (S)/Cane/Squire/Whitelock (L)/Smith (A)/Barrett (B)/Crotty/Goodhue (Jack)/Ioane (A)/Naholo/Smith (B)

    Bench: Harris/Tuinukuafe/Tu'ungafasi/Todd/Fifita/TJP/Barrett (J)/ALB

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    @pakman said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    Starting XV?

    Moody (F)/Taylor/Franks (F)/Whitelock (S)/Barrett (S)/Cane/Squire/Whitelock (L)/Smith (A)/Barrett (B)/Crotty/Goodhue (Jack)/Ioane (A)/Naholo/Smith (B)

    Bench: Harris/Tuinukuafe/Tu'ungafasi/Todd/Fifita/TJP/Barrett (J)/ALB

    Not sure if Fred Moody or Frank Franks are better than Joe and Owen.

    And I'd prefer Rieko to Akira as a winger.

    More seriously I essentially agree with that XXIII with the exception of your back reserve: Swap out ALB for DMac. We need specialist 10 cover. I know it's current trend to hate on DMac and to prefer Mounga, but I'll swim against that tide.

    Midfield cover from Ioane (A)(R) and Barrett (J).

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    @toddy said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @bones Ardie has more meters, more passes, though less offloads.

    An example of Todd's lack of form compared to last year - he's more than twice as likely to knock on than Brad Toaster for hands Shields. Just let that sink in.

    Savea’s Style is effective at Super Rugby level, but completely ineffective at Test level. He’s too small, get pushed back and he avoids tackling to go for a turnover.

    There is a reason he only gets to come on as a sub against tiring defences. Cane and Todd should be 1 & 2, screw this super sub bullshit.

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    @kirwan I don't disagree with your comments regarding Savea at test level. I just think Todd's form this year didn't warrant his selection in the initial team. Last year was a different story.

    Todd's handling errors alone point to him being off. Hopefully the ABs can help him lift his game.

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    @booboo The Forearm bros, Joe and Owen!

    I prefer Mo'unga too. DMac would open space for ALB -- Mo'unga/Barrett (J) OR DMac/ALB.

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    Injuries permitting, I think they will pick:

    Moody, Taylor, Franks, SBarrett, Whitelock, Squire, Cane, Whitelock, Smith, BBarrett, Ioane, Laumape, Crotty, Smith, JBarrett

    Tu'inukuafe, Harris, Tu'ungafasi, Romano, Savea, Perenara, DMac, ALB

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    I’d much prefer a back three of

    11 Ioane
    14 Naholo
    15 B. Smith

    B. Barrett drops back quite a bit anyway, so we always have 3 or sometimes 4 players behind the ball for the counter. That’s two kicking options. We don’t need a third on the wing. Even if we do, both Ioane and Naholo have shown they know how to clear it.

    J. Barrett is a good bench option for fullback/wing/midfield cover.

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    @act-crusader Your back three is the most likely variation to what I've picked (IMO). I thought abnout that for a while. 🙂

    I think having DMac and Jordie on the bench has a lot of redundancy and I'm far from convinced that Jordie is first rate cover in the midfield or wing. Also he'll be earning just his third test cap, so I think they'll be cautious about what they task him with.

    So, I'm somewhat of the opinion that if Jordie doesn't start he doesn't play. And I think they'll want him to play. And I think they'll want to give DMac plenty of time to bed in as a Supersub.

    So to get them both in the 23, I've got Jordie starting - but, I won't be surprised to be wrong.

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    @chris-b yeah just to make fern history I'm going to disagree with @ACT-Crusader.

    I don't see the value in DMac and 5aMac on the bench either and can't abide the latter as midfield cover. Although can't say I'd be all that comfortable with Ioane covering it either.

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    @bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @chris-b yeah just to make fern history I'm going to disagree with @ACT-Crusader.

    I don't see the value in DMac and 5aMac on the bench either and can't abide the latter as midfield cover. Although can't say I'd be all that comfortable with Ioane covering it either.

    So many names for him now

    5AMac
    McBarrett
    Big Mac Barret.

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    @hooroo said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @chris-b yeah just to make fern history I'm going to disagree with @ACT-Crusader.

    I don't see the value in DMac and 5aMac on the bench either and can't abide the latter as midfield cover. Although can't say I'd be all that comfortable with Ioane covering it either.

    So many names for him now

    5AMac
    McBarrett
    Big Mac Barret.

    Pimply Giraffe

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    @bones 5aMac - nice, I had to think about that briefly. 🙂

    Yeah - specialist midfield cover on the bench - especially given that I've picked Crotty to start.

    Much as I like Crots, he's starting to feel a bit like having Guppy opening in test matches. It's more hope than expectation that he'll still be out there an hour after the start. 🙂

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    @hooroo said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @chris-b yeah just to make fern history I'm going to disagree with @ACT-Crusader.

    I don't see the value in DMac and 5aMac on the bench either and can't abide the latter as midfield cover. Although can't say I'd be all that comfortable with Ioane covering it either.

    So many names for him now

    5AMac
    McBarrett
    Big Mac Barret.

    You can't blame him. Maccas is pretty meh most of the time but downright delicious when you're on the hammer in the wee small hours.

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    @mn5 said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @hooroo said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @chris-b yeah just to make fern history I'm going to disagree with @ACT-Crusader.

    I don't see the value in DMac and 5aMac on the bench either and can't abide the latter as midfield cover. Although can't say I'd be all that comfortable with Ioane covering it either.

    So many names for him now

    5AMac
    McBarrett
    Big Mac Barret.

    You can't blame him. Maccas is pretty meh most of the time but downright delicious when you're on the hammer in the wee small hours.

    I don't think anyone is concerned with his food choices...

    I made a dire mistake two weeks ago after a massive night, on the way to work I stopped at maccas and took advantage of the Morning Big Macs! That couple of minutes of Big Mac satisfaction was knocked severly on the head as it made me feel ropey as hell for about 6 hours! Repeating Big Macs is not cool

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  • MN5M Offline
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    @hooroo said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @mn5 said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @hooroo said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @chris-b yeah just to make fern history I'm going to disagree with @ACT-Crusader.

    I don't see the value in DMac and 5aMac on the bench either and can't abide the latter as midfield cover. Although can't say I'd be all that comfortable with Ioane covering it either.

    So many names for him now

    5AMac
    McBarrett
    Big Mac Barret.

    You can't blame him. Maccas is pretty meh most of the time but downright delicious when you're on the hammer in the wee small hours.

    I don't think anyone is concerned with his food choices...

    I made a dire mistake two weeks ago after a massive night, on the way to work I stopped at maccas and took advantage of the Morning Big Macs! That couple of minutes of Big Mac satisfaction was knocked severly on the head as it made me feel ropey as hell for about 6 hours! Repeating Big Macs is not cool

    At least there was no public holiday surcharge though

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    You fuckers shouldn't bad mouth my pal maccas like that. It's farkin shit in the UK, you don't know how good you've got it.

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