Bledisloe II
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@antipodean said in Bledisloe II:
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe II:
@antipodean said in Bledisloe II:
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe II:
How can they select a #8 when they are fully committed to the two opensides? And who is the #8 they can bring in?
Pick one open side - there's a good reason every other nation has done that for a century. Isi Naisarani or anyone else his size, throw in Jordan Smiler as a stopgap measure.
pffft hahaha
there is no way they aren't picking Saint David, his breakdown turnovers in their own 30 are the only thing keeping the score respectable. And the other one is the captain and highest paid player.
I'm aware of that, my point is it doesn't work. They're horribly compromised.
no shit it doesn't work. it didn't work when the wallabies first tried it 16 years ago.
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The Springboks regularly pick no true openside and seem to get away with it.
Opensides can win lineout ball. McCaw did regularly, and he's hardly the only one. Hooper could be lifted. I know height is an advantage, but timing is more important. At least the threat of a throw to the back?
Or are their hookers too poke to do that?
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@chester-draws said in Bledisloe II:
The Springboks regularly pick no true openside and seem to get away with it.
But they're the opposite; big men who can carry and nearly everyone of them is a lineout option. It's practically the opposite problem.
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@mariner4life They should get on the lash and enjoy Waiheke, won't make the result that much worse and at least they'll have a bit of fun.
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@chester-draws said in Bledisloe II:
The Springboks regularly pick no true openside and seem to get away with it.
Opensides can win lineout ball. McCaw did regularly, and he's hardly the only one. Hooper could be lifted. I know height is an advantage, but timing is more important. At least the threat of a throw to the back?
Or are their hookers too poke to do that?
You could lift Hooper with taller lifters at 2.
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@majorrage said in Bledisloe II:
The issue is that both are so good ... who do you leave out?
Should be interesting selection this week - will be quite dependent on where Cheika thinks the line-out problems were coming from.
Personally I'd leave Hoopah! out for The Womble
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We must be happy, with the AB's, if all we can talk about is the shit balance of the Aussie loosies and how it affecting their lineout.:face_with_stuck-out_tongue_winking_eye:
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I for one want to see our attack off set piece improve 10 fold. Pass catch was shit.
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Gowden didn't pull any punches "Cheika must pay the price for a team whose appalling skill level makes a mockery of the professional footballer tag, and arrogant, holier-than-thou attitude does not warrant any respect from those sick and tired of a pedestrian outfit who constantly makes fools of themselves in the big games."
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Even if they fix their own throws we can easily shift tactics on ours and they are still defending 2 on 4 in the air. Not having the equivalent of Squire and Read as targets really compromises them.
I doubt the scrum will be as poor this weak, they had some no names on for a while there and the 50/50 calls not going their way early set them on the back foot not wanting to rack up penalties and a perception from Peyper that would stick badly.
A question for the scrum club. In those early ones where Franks was just lying flat on the ground yet the Convicts were penalised, was that from the loosehead sliding up over his back? If so, it was a very good spot from Peyper because it looked like the only one going to ground was in black. -
As usual the only real discussions in the lead up for the ABs will be the numbers 11-15.
ALB/Goodhue worked well and looked a keeper however there will be a temptation to give Laumape a chance as ALB makes a better balance on the bench.
If the back three is BFA/JB/WN with DMac on the bench then there are three fullbacks available and still a need for midfield cover. I still think that maybe ALB is being considered as a centre/wing cover for 2019. It is a role we have always considered good for RWCs with Kahui and SBW having previously taken up the mantle.
ALB didn't get that chance on the weekend after Crotty went off but I suspect the selectors would still like to see him come on in the last 20 for a tired wing.
IF BFA and JB start I would like to see them swapping around on defence/attack. BFAs vision and game reading is so superior from 15 that he will often stifle an opposition foray or clean up after a desperate tackle.
I would also like to see the Barrett bros take a dual kicking role with JB taking long range shots. I never get why we always stick with one kicker. Having someone that can punish the opposition from 50m is a killer. -
Given how good Smith was at fullback i am loath to move him. The selectors picked wingers, use them. If they aren't good enough why did you pick them?
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@crucial re laumape why play an inferior player for 2/4 of the game? That doesn't make sense
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@mariner4life said in Bledisloe II:
Given how good Smith was at fullback i am loath to move him. The selectors picked wingers, use them. If they aren't good enough why did you pick them?
So are you think NMS comes in?
