Diets keto/carnivore etc
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@sapetyvi said in Diets keto/carnivore etc:
@jegga Had no problems. I was 100% sure my energy levels would go to shit, but nothing happened. What is keto-flu?
Apparently if you go all in it’s a real shock to your system and you get a week or so of flu like symptoms. Some people start off slower to avoid it.
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@jegga Well my diet wasnt shit, I just ate too much, plus the occasional fast food and then being too much on the piss, so the biggest shock was the hunger, but I reckon the fast helped there big time. I might also just be a lucky prick.
I got the fasting thing from an internet article which I cant find right now, it was 10 things we all should be able to do and I had done all of them except fasting for 24hrs, so I gave it a try and fuck I enjoyed it.
From now on I will Be doing 36-48hrs once a month, and just this week got on the intermittent thingy, I eat lunch between 11-12, dinner 17-18 and then just before 20 Ill Haven something small, usually a shake with milk, 1-2 eggs, whey-100 and some peanutbutter. I only really feel hungry just before lunch and dinner, otherwise it has been fine -
@sapetyvi Cheers for that, very useful. I've heard about the benefits from fasting but I know I generally turn into a bit of a prick when hungry so I think its best for everyone if I don't!
I have a colleague at work who has been doing Keto and intermittent fasting for a few weeks now, she claims she has more energy but she moans a hell of a lot during the day about being hungry and last week I had to call an ambulance as she collapsed with abdominal pain...so that's put me off the fasting part at least! (she ended up being fine, just got her to eat some cookies and have a rest and she came right).
Sustainability is certainly the key and I can see that will be where I could easily fall off as I do have a pretty busy life as is. I've also read about the keto-flu which I could see me caving after a stressful day so I think I'm just going to at least initially cut out all major sources of carbs bread/pasta/rice/potato/sugars. See how that runs for a month and then look to take things further. I'm also not in a position where I want to lose weight, maybe just a little bit of toning to pull back a slight holiday belly but nothing drastic.
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The tough thing is lack of snack type opportunities. No sandwiches, no pasta or rice salads. Lunch can be a bitch unless you plan.
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Planning is a must, need to be at least two days ahead, else you end up pounding a chinese buffet into bankcrupsy at lunch on monday.
I sorted the snacks with the shakes, get some good whey protein and blend it to milk, toss in an egg for good measure. Tastes ok and takes the hunger away for a while.
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I’m not Keto but roll with the low carb every time I need to shred up a bit for summer and it works quick fast every time. Usually feel less bloat or puffiness and way tighter within a week.
Means heaps of meat and greens. Plus eggs, peanut butter etc oh and whey. Takes prep tho, coooked up 2kg or chick breast this evening and also have about a kg of brisket left over to keep me going at work for the week.
Only carbs (other then vegetables) is post training in my oats and often have a banana on legs day.
Always have a refeed day with more carbs once a week and plan this for a heavy workout day. Keeps me sane knowing it’s coming and I feel like it helps with metabolism and insulin sensitivity.
Re energy levels. Haven’t noticed much impact but been like this for years and now days I’m more likely to feel sleepy and lethargic from carbs than I do without.
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I think ultimately you want to be happy and healthy. If you're constantly hungry and pissed off then it probably isn't ideal. Life can be short too so no point in completing cutting out all of the finer things.
I've experimented a bit and found a diet that works well for me. No sugar, butter or bread.
Breakfast: Cup of oats, raspberries, 2.5 eggs mixed with protein powder. Absolutely delicious.
Midmorning: 2 wholemeal rice cakes with peanutbutter.
Lunch: Chicken/turkey/salmon with rice/kumara.
Midafternoon: chunk of kale mixed with protein powder. Good shit.
Dinner: Similar to lunch, but midweek usually go spaghetti bolognaise.Saturday used to be epic cheat meals but have calmed down a bit. Generally just eat what I want but within reason.
Works well for me and I'm never hungry. But everyone is different.
I'm very skeptical about the carnivore diet but hope it catches on to piss off the vegans.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Diets keto/carnivore etc:
Breakfast: Cup of oats, raspberries, 2.5 eggs mixed with protein powder. Absolutely delicious.
So are you making a protein shake and adding raw eggs to it?
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@milk said in Diets keto/carnivore etc:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Diets keto/carnivore etc:
Breakfast: Cup of oats, raspberries, 2.5 eggs mixed with protein powder. Absolutely delicious.
So are you making a protein shake and adding raw eggs to it?
I used to top up my protein shakes with those liquid egg whats, add an extra 50ml to 100ml in there so bonus protein
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@milk said in Diets keto/carnivore etc:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Diets keto/carnivore etc:
Breakfast: Cup of oats, raspberries, 2.5 eggs mixed with protein powder. Absolutely delicious.
So are you making a protein shake and adding raw eggs to it?
Yep. Delicious.
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@sapetyvi said in Diets keto/carnivore etc:
@milk I do that, tastes good.
That’s a big part of a diet I reckon, if it isn’t that great to eat or there’s no variety it’s so much harder to stick to.
Apparently there’s nothing unhealthy in an egg yolk so you can keep those in your shakes. I want to get more eggs into my diet and am thinking about getting chooks.
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@jegga And variety makes a diet healthier too, if you only ever eat broccoli and chicken breast, you are probably missing on some nutrients you need.
I am a bit lazy on the variations, some health nut would probably shred My diet into pieces, but it is still way better than it used to be.
Varying the meat isn't hard, but the veggies is. Caukiflower, broccoli and cabbage are staples in my diet and I actually like them, so it's easy to get around a kilo a day in. I do like most veggies, but some are heavy on carbs so need to be careful there.
Co workers are starting to get jealous tho. Whip out ribs or pulled pork for lunch and they will start considering if their pasta with minced meat and ketchup was the right choice.
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Not sure where to put this...
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@milk said in Diets keto/carnivore etc:
I always thought is wasn't considered safe to eat raw eggs? Has that been busted?
Done alot of research on this. There is a minuscule chance of getting sick from caged eggs and even smaller chance from farm free eggs.
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So 1 week into an extremely low carb diet and the results are pretty good.
Holiday belly pretty much gone, I understand this could of course be just a water retension thing.More importantly however my energy levels are waaaay up. No crashes during the day, getting a lot of work done after hours, waking up much easier, getting really back into regular gym and mood way improved.
Felt a little lethargic on Wednesdays gym session so I upped the amount of meat eating on Wednesday and Thursday nights and this morning smashed out my first 8km run in a long time without the lethargy I would expect for having very few carbs.
Of course this could be just short term and maybe change in weather or even possibly a slight illness running its course could be the cause of the improvements but certainly positive enough results to continue with for now.
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@rembrandt Good onya. If you feel the need to eat more carbs, I reckon a lot of professionals recommend taking them around training, or evening if you have earned them during the day.
Took a bit of a hit on the weekend myself, had a schoolmate move back here and we went on a bit of a bender, but have upped my training this week and also eaten a bit more, morning weight today 101.9kg. On the plus side is that I can fit to my favorite shirt again, minus is that it isn't tight around the shoulders anymore like it used to be.
