All Blacks C team...
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@sparky The injuries to Hames and Moli have been a blessing in disguise. We wouldn't have heard of big Karl had those guys been playing for the Chiefs this year. Loosehead was an area of concern too with only Moody being truly world class. Not anymore.
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Bones said:
Rancid Schnitzel said:
MN5 said:
Gunner said:
@mn5 your Ngatai radar is working well I see, didn’t take you long to get here.
It was quicker when @Rancid-Schnitzel was mentioning nudes on his fitness thread but I do my best.
That was faster than flies on shit!
Is this related to your nudes?
Dick picks.
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sparky said:
@machpants Atunisa Mola, Kane Hames and Nepo Laulala would have all played Prop for the All Blacks this year but for injury. Jordan Taufua would have been picked in the Back Row.
I think Blake Gibson, Brad Weber, Asifa Aumua, Akira Ioane, Vince Aso, Will Jordan and Ben Lam are as good as players in the current All Blacks squad.
Okay. I’ll bite.
I’d have Savea over Gibson.
TTT and TJP well above Weber (Hall even).
Aumua has played how much rugby? And even though Harris has a big question mark his scrum work would be far superior to Aumua’s.
Akira who?
Aso on par with or ahead of one of SBW, Crotty, Goodhue, ALB, Laumape, nah don’t think so.
With Will Jordan and Ben Lam, I think history has shown that you have to have a standout year to get into the squad as an outside back and once there play fairly consistent. Once there though the AB coaches will invest in you and show a decent amount of loyalty. -
@act-crusader You've missed the point, this is a C team. Only ABs eligible players (so no one in Japan or Eu, etc) who are fit & available, and are not already in the squad.
A hypothetical team, if the ABs squad was wiped out, who would take the field - just to see if the famous ABs depth is actually "Beaver Deep" (TM), or not actually that good in reality
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@machpants I think he is pointing out what he considers hyperbole with sparky saying those 'c team' players are as good as the current abs, nothing to do with next rung of players.
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taniwharugby said:
@machpants I think he is pointing out what he considers hyperbole with sparky saying those 'c team' players are as good as the current abs, nothing to do with next rung of players.
Yep, hyperbole to suggest Akira might be as good as Luke Whitelock!
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@nepia 1/7 players named there, I'll give you that one.
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taniwharugby said:
@nepia 1/7 players named there, I'll give you that one.
I think a case could be made for Aumua over Harris, Jordan over NMS, Lam over NMS. I'm not saying I'm making that case, but the case could be made. And Bryn Hall over nobody.
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Nepia said:
taniwharugby said:
@nepia 1/7 players named there, I'll give you that one.
I think a case could be made for Aumua over Harris, Jordan over NMS, Lam over NMS. I'm not saying I'm making that case, but the case could be made. And Bryn Hall over nobody.
If you're gonna make cases can you back them up?
Unless of course it's for MMS in which case a case can be made for any AB bar Owen Frank's having more toe than him out wide
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Nepia said:
Chris B. said:
@nepia The best explanation is that he falls foul of the NDP.
The NDP's must be the most fluid policy out there considering who and who doesn't fall foul of it.
Who knows who gets to blackball who.
But, as above. Give me a better explanation.
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MN5 said:
Nepia said:
taniwharugby said:
@nepia 1/7 players named there, I'll give you that one.
I think a case could be made for Aumua over Harris, Jordan over NMS, Lam over NMS. I'm not saying I'm making that case, but the case could be made. And Bryn Hall over nobody.
If you're gonna make cases can you back them up?
Unless of course it's for MMS in which case a case can be made for any AB bar Owen Frank's having more toe than him out wide
I specifically said cases can be made, but I wasn't making them. But you've just made one yourself for two out of the three examples I provided so clearly that's proof that cases can be made.
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Nepia said:
MN5 said:
Nepia said:
taniwharugby said:
@nepia 1/7 players named there, I'll give you that one.
I think a case could be made for Aumua over Harris, Jordan over NMS, Lam over NMS. I'm not saying I'm making that case, but the case could be made. And Bryn Hall over nobody.
If you're gonna make cases can you back them up?
Unless of course it's for MMS in which case a case can be made for any AB bar Owen Frank's having more toe than him out wide
I specifically said cases can be made, but I wasn't making them. But you've just made one yourself for two out of the three examples I provided so clearly that's proof that cases can be made.
I have no case to argue any of this
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Chris B. said:
KiwiMurph said:
Yes it must be all that off the ball niggle that Akira has never been penalised once in his first class career for....
Give me a better explanation?
I think its down to his defence. L Whitelock is almost inverse to Akira as a player and they clearly prefer Luke - poor ball runner but can hit hard in defence. Akira is a decent defender cos he is quick and strong but he doesnt put big hits on in defence and I dont think he ever will tbh - its either something you have or you dont.
