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Chris B. said:
@jegga I reckon that certainly if you're a List MP you should be bound to your party. Just because you no longer like your party doesn't mean that the people whose votes have installed you there agree with you.
If you feel strongly enough the need to ditch your party, then resign and let the next person come in.
The $300K contract is pretty ludicrous.
Yeah the $300K contract clause is astonishing.
However if you’re unhappy and disaffected with where the party is going, history will show that you can actually do more damage from inside the tent than moving to be an independent.
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Chris B. said:
@jegga I reckon that certainly if you're a List MP you should be bound to your party. Just because you no longer like your party doesn't mean that the people whose votes have installed you there agree with you.
If you feel strongly enough the need to ditch your party, then resign and let the next person come in.
The $300K contract is pretty ludicrous.
Does that mean that if you strongly disagree with the direction your party has taken or you feel it’s abandoned the principles that got it elected in the first place you should have to leave parliament and someone further down the list who won’t make a fuss should take your place?
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Donsteppa said:
Chris B. said:
@jegga Yep! You're representing the people who elected you, not yourself.
Until a party moves away from what the people elected them to do...
Exactly, that’s the reason Winston left National. He only wants this because the people he picks for his MPs are usually human detritus and he can’t trust them .
The Greens are probably abandoning what little integrity they have left because of the two MPs who left after the material girl went public with her benefit fraud.
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Donsteppa said:
Chris B. said:
@jegga Yep! You're representing the people who elected you, not yourself.
Until a party moves away from what the people elected them to do...
The rest of us have to wait three years to get rid of the lying fuckers - why should an MP who's actually had a seat at the table get this privilege?
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Voting this bill in drops us down the electoral freedom index
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12132264
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Jacinda has done well - positive press in our news and all over my social media - including from my business oriented colleagues - each of whom were impressed with her, well, kiwiness.
It’s a strange thing, but she seems to have caught people’s attention in a harmless, yet positive way. I still think she’s a lightweight, but she seems to have made every post a winner on this trip.
I want to add that I am a right leaning liberal (voted ACT and National only) who isn’t in the market to change, but I think it’s fair to admit she’s been pretty good at using whatever options are available to her in this trip.
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gt12 said:
Jacinda has done well - positive press in our news and all over my social media - including from my business oriented colleagues - each of whom were impressed with her, well, kiwiness.
It’s a strange thing, but she seems to have caught people’s attention in a harmless, yet positive way. I still think she’s a lightweight, but she seems to have made every post a winner on this trip.
I want to add that I am a right leaning liberal (voted ACT and National only) who isn’t in the market to change, but I think it’s fair to admit she’s been pretty good at using whatever options are available to her in this trip.
And on this trip she’s achieved .....what exactly?
Just as well baby Neve was there.
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See how far you get without tasting a bit of vomit in your mouth
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booboo said:
@jegga a hint of scarcasm perhaps?
Tge last couple of paras are telling.
You’re right , I couldn’t face another article about “baby Neve at the UN !!!!!” And didn’t make it all the way through.
I should have known better because Garner was one of the few to call Turei on her bullshit right from the start last year and mock labour for refusing to say “ labour led coalition “.
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jegga said:
booboo said:
@jegga a hint of scarcasm perhaps?
Tge last couple of paras are telling.
You’re right , I couldn’t face another article about “baby Neve at the UN !!!!!” And didn’t make it all the way through.
I should have known better because Garner was one of the few to call Turei on her bullshit right from the start last year and mock labour for refusing to say “ labour led coalition “.
Nice dig at Taika Cohen at the end too .The tone in the comments was predominantly negative towards starbrite
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Virgil said:
No mention of how empty the general assembly was when starbrite spoke?
Were there any actual ‘big’ world leaders in the room when she had her amazing speech?Pffft . Mere details .
Here’s here speech it’s waffle calculated to cause the minimum offense. She mentions our greatest pm Fraser who was there at the founding of the UN , he was dead against the major powers having a veto . He was right.
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