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My tuppence worth ... purely speculation based on media reports over the last week coz I'd never heard of him before ...
... Jami-lee thinks he is a master manipulator, confirmed by years of manipulating amateurs at school and uni and local government level.
Thinks he has the jump on the professional opponents he's now up against and is completely out of his depth. Just not clever enough to realise.
Is misreading his popularity in the electorate as being about him (being narcissistic and all), not realising his majority is all about National.
No loss to anyone.
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@booboo said in NZ Politics:
My tuppence worth ... purely speculation based on media reports over the last week coz I'd never heard of him before ...
... Jami-lee thinks he is a master manipulator, confirmed by years of manipulating amateurs at school and uni and local government level.
Thinks he has the jump on the professional opponents he's now up against and is completely out of his depth. Just not clever enough to realise.
Is misreading his popularity in the electorate as being about him (being narcissistic and all), not realising his majority is all about National.
No loss to anyone.
Lot of words just to say he is a deluded fluffybunny.
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@booboo said in NZ Politics:
My tuppence worth ... purely speculation based on media reports over the last week coz I'd never heard of him before ...
... Jami-lee thinks he is a master manipulator, confirmed by years of manipulating amateurs at school and uni and local government level.
Thinks he has the jump on the professional opponents he's now up against and is completely out of his depth. Just not clever enough to realise.
Is misreading his popularity in the electorate as being about him (being narcissistic and all), not realising his majority is all about National.
No loss to anyone.
He didn't go to uni, straight from high school to local politics. Who the fark does that?!
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@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@booboo said in NZ Politics:
My tuppence worth ... purely speculation based on media reports over the last week coz I'd never heard of him before ...
... Jami-lee thinks he is a master manipulator, confirmed by years of manipulating amateurs at school and uni and local government level.
Thinks he has the jump on the professional opponents he's now up against and is completely out of his depth. Just not clever enough to realise.
Is misreading his popularity in the electorate as being about him (being narcissistic and all), not realising his majority is all about National.
No loss to anyone.
He didn't go to uni, straight from high school to local politics. Who the fark does that?!
See post above.
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@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@booboo said in NZ Politics:
My tuppence worth ... purely speculation based on media reports over the last week coz I'd never heard of him before ...
... Jami-lee thinks he is a master manipulator, confirmed by years of manipulating amateurs at school and uni and local government level.
Thinks he has the jump on the professional opponents he's now up against and is completely out of his depth. Just not clever enough to realise.
Is misreading his popularity in the electorate as being about him (being narcissistic and all), not realising his majority is all about National.
No loss to anyone.
He didn't go to uni, straight from high school to local politics. Who the fark does that?!
Nick Smith!
Stood for the Rangiora District Council while he was still at school and got elected when he was 21.
In Parliament by age 26, where he has been ever since....thinking he knows more about everything than everyone else!
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@baron-silas-greenback said in NZ Politics:
Lot of words just to say he is a deluded fluffybunny.
This post Baron?
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@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@booboo said in NZ Politics:
My tuppence worth ... purely speculation based on media reports over the last week coz I'd never heard of him before ...
... Jami-lee thinks he is a master manipulator, confirmed by years of manipulating amateurs at school and uni and local government level.
Thinks he has the jump on the professional opponents he's now up against and is completely out of his depth. Just not clever enough to realise.
Is misreading his popularity in the electorate as being about him (being narcissistic and all), not realising his majority is all about National.
No loss to anyone.
He didn't go to uni, straight from high school to local politics. Who the fark does that?!
Our pm has a similar cv.
One of the things that appalls me most about labour and the Greens is that almost all of them have a “work” record similar this fuckwit the only variation being time “working “ for a union . National shouldn’t be selecting people like this too. -
@chris-b Having worked in both local and central govt, I can say it was always easy to spot the 'lifers' as opposed to those who had worked in both the public and private sector. Completely different mindset and work ethic. The lifers were the ones who would literally stop in the middle of a task because they had their cup of tea at 10.15am on the dot, and under no circumstances was it acceptable to finish task and have tea at 10.20am. Also...the unhealthy insulation from accountability gives them an incredibly bizarre sense of their own importance and knowledge compared to everyone else.
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@mokey said in NZ Politics:
@chris-b Having worked in both local and central govt, I can say it was always easy to spot the 'lifers' as opposed to those who had worked in both the public and private sector. Completely different mindset and work ethic. The lifers were the ones who would literally stop in the middle of a task because they had their cup of tea at 10.15am on the dot, and under no circumstances was it acceptable to finish task and have tea at 10.20am. Also...the unhealthy insulation from accountability gives them an incredibly bizarre sense of their own importance and knowledge compared to everyone else.
You mean like this entitled fluffybunny?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12143860
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@chris-b said in NZ Politics:
@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@booboo said in NZ Politics:
My tuppence worth ... purely speculation based on media reports over the last week coz I'd never heard of him before ...
... Jami-lee thinks he is a master manipulator, confirmed by years of manipulating amateurs at school and uni and local government level.
Thinks he has the jump on the professional opponents he's now up against and is completely out of his depth. Just not clever enough to realise.
Is misreading his popularity in the electorate as being about him (being narcissistic and all), not realising his majority is all about National.
No loss to anyone.
He didn't go to uni, straight from high school to local politics. Who the fark does that?!
Nick Smith!
Stood for the Rangiora District Council while he was still at school and got elected when he was 21.
In Parliament by age 26, where he has been ever since....thinking he knows more about everything than everyone else!
Nick Smith not the person to choose as en example! Worked in construction (family firm), trained as an Engineer and got a PhD in landslides. Probably more connected than most politicians of the realities of running a business
Education and early career
Smith was born in Rangiora in 1964, the son of John Smith. His father was born in New South Wales and came to New Zealand to start a contracting business, building drains and bridges. Smith has seven siblings; three sisters and four brothers. His father and two brothers all own independent construction crane hire businesses.[4] Smith was educated at Rangiora High School and the University of Canterbury where he achieved 1st Class Honours in Civil Engineering, was an AFS Scholar to the U.S. and eventually gained a PhD with a thesis on New Zealand landslides.[5] Before entering parliament, he worked as an engineer for the Rangiora County Council, and as director of his family construction company. He also served on the Rangiora District Council, unsuccessfully standing while still at secondary school in 1983, and successfully standing again in 1986 aged 21.[6] -
@nzzp said in NZ Politics:
@chris-b said in NZ Politics:
@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@booboo said in NZ Politics:
My tuppence worth ... purely speculation based on media reports over the last week coz I'd never heard of him before ...
... Jami-lee thinks he is a master manipulator, confirmed by years of manipulating amateurs at school and uni and local government level.
Thinks he has the jump on the professional opponents he's now up against and is completely out of his depth. Just not clever enough to realise.
Is misreading his popularity in the electorate as being about him (being narcissistic and all), not realising his majority is all about National.
No loss to anyone.
He didn't go to uni, straight from high school to local politics. Who the fark does that?!
Nick Smith!
Stood for the Rangiora District Council while he was still at school and got elected when he was 21.
In Parliament by age 26, where he has been ever since....thinking he knows more about everything than everyone else!
Nick Smith not the person to choose as en example! Worked in construction (family firm), trained as an Engineer and got a PhD in landslides. Probably more connected than most politicians of the realities of running a business
Education and early career
Smith was born in Rangiora in 1964, the son of John Smith. His father was born in New South Wales and came to New Zealand to start a contracting business, building drains and bridges. Smith has seven siblings; three sisters and four brothers. His father and two brothers all own independent construction crane hire businesses.[4] Smith was educated at Rangiora High School and the University of Canterbury where he achieved 1st Class Honours in Civil Engineering, was an AFS Scholar to the U.S. and eventually gained a PhD with a thesis on New Zealand landslides.[5] Before entering parliament, he worked as an engineer for the Rangiora County Council, and as director of his family construction company. He also served on the Rangiora District Council, unsuccessfully standing while still at secondary school in 1983, and successfully standing again in 1986 aged 21.[6]Cheers. I’m not a fan of Nick Smith but I was pretty certain he wasn’t a lifelong trougher.
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@chris-b said in NZ Politics:
@nzzp If that is true it is a damning indictment on everyone else.
Nick had about three years of working in the real world!
Yeah - but training as an Engineer is quite reality based. You actually have to interface with the real world ... and while 3 years working, being in the Smithbridge family would mean some real dinnertime chats about construction, debts, regulators, etc.
So yeah, a bit of a damning indictment. Stark by comparison with our friend Jami Lee Ross ...
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@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@baron-silas-greenback said in NZ Politics:
Lot of words just to say he is a deluded fluffybunny.
This post Baron?
There was an earlier post saying he'd essentially been a career poli from school, to uni, to local stuff, to parliament. I took that as gospel as I do everything I read on the net. Especially on TSF.
IF I can find it again I'll quote it. Otherwise just accept my version as fact.
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@jegga said in NZ Politics:
@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@booboo said in NZ Politics:
My tuppence worth ... purely speculation based on media reports over the last week coz I'd never heard of him before ...
... Jami-lee thinks he is a master manipulator, confirmed by years of manipulating amateurs at school and uni and local government level.
Thinks he has the jump on the professional opponents he's now up against and is completely out of his depth. Just not clever enough to realise.
Is misreading his popularity in the electorate as being about him (being narcissistic and all), not realising his majority is all about National.
No loss to anyone.
He didn't go to uni, straight from high school to local politics. Who the fark does that?!
Our pm has a similar cv.
One of the things that appalls me most about labour and the Greens is that almost all of them have a “work” record similar this fuckwit the only variation being time “working “ for a union . National shouldn’t be selecting people like this too.There are many examples in the ranks of the left. Helen went from uni to various young Labour or union positions didn't she? Chloe Swarbrick doesn't appear to have done anything of note, there are many more. Perhaps we need to adopt a stance like Singapore, offer higher wages for MPs so that more capable people see it as a viable career. Even John Key didn't do it for the money
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@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@jegga said in NZ Politics:
@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@booboo said in NZ Politics:
My tuppence worth ... purely speculation based on media reports over the last week coz I'd never heard of him before ...
... Jami-lee thinks he is a master manipulator, confirmed by years of manipulating amateurs at school and uni and local government level.
Thinks he has the jump on the professional opponents he's now up against and is completely out of his depth. Just not clever enough to realise.
Is misreading his popularity in the electorate as being about him (being narcissistic and all), not realising his majority is all about National.
No loss to anyone.
He didn't go to uni, straight from high school to local politics. Who the fark does that?!
Our pm has a similar cv.
One of the things that appalls me most about labour and the Greens is that almost all of them have a “work” record similar this fuckwit the only variation being time “working “ for a union . National shouldn’t be selecting people like this too.There are many examples in the ranks of the left. Helen went from uni to various young Labour or union positions didn't she? Chloe Swarbrick doesn't appear to have done anything of note, there are many more. Perhaps we need to adopt a stance like Singapore, offer higher wages for MPs so that more capable people see it as a viable career. Even John Key didn't do it for the money
Pretty much all of the left and an increasing number of national too . Wanting to be a career politician should automatically rule you out of a career in politics.
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@taniwharugby said in NZ Politics:
@jegga not everyone can have had such a storied life as your mate Golly!
Leave her alone, she’s my mpilf.
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