2018 November Internationals
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Decision on the citing of Kolisi, following the Scotland v South Africa test:
Siya Kolisi (South Africa) Siya Kolisi (South Africa) has received a Citing Commissioner Warning from Citing Commissioner David Pelton (USA) for striking with the head (Law 9.12) during the 31st minute of the Scotland versus South Africa November test at BT Murrayfield on 17 November. Having reviewed the video angles, the Citing Commissioner determined that there were mitigating factors which meant that the action did not meet the red card threshold, including the player being illegally prevented from re-joining the play by Scotland’s Peter Horne and the moderate force of the strike to the side of the head. The match officials did not see the incident at the time on the field of play. Under World Rugby Regulation 17, a Citing Commissioner Warning is issued for offences falling just short of a RC and, or similarly to cards, will form part of the player’s disciplinary record.See this clip:
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Having reviewed the video angles, the Citing Commissioner determined that there were mitigating factors which meant that the action did not meet the red card threshold, including the player being illegally prevented from re-joining the play by Scotland’s Peter Horne and the moderate force of the strike to the side of the head.
So headbutting someone as a retaliatory action now isn't a red card? What the flying fuck is wrong with World Rugby it employs these retards as citing commissioners?
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@antipodean said in 2018 November Internationals:
Having reviewed the video angles, the Citing Commissioner determined that there were mitigating factors which meant that the action did not meet the red card threshold, including the player being illegally prevented from re-joining the play by Scotland’s Peter Horne and the moderate force of the strike to the side of the head.
So headbutting someone as a retaliatory action now isn't a red card? What the flying fuck is wrong with World Rugby it employs these retards as citing commissioners?
You seem surprised that WR law makers seem to make it up on the fly? For the past few years taking someone out in the air has been a card (and more often than not a red card) yet now it's deemed a penalty only.
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The Barbarians are - as usual - dripfeeding their squad for the game against Argentina (2 December NZT), but finally, there's a Kiwi in the team: Wyatt Crockett! Really awesome that the big man gets to finish his international career playing for the Barbarians; he has never played for them before.
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Interesting stats posted by Yalden, especially when you look at total games played, France most in NH and Aus most overall.
I do love a good #StatOnASunday, so as the sun sets on the 2018 international season (photo pun) here’s the win loss records of the Rugby Championship nations, Home Unions & France in 2018 (in order of last weeks World Rugby Rankings)
- 🇳🇿️New Zealand - 12 wins 2 losses
- 🇮🇪️Ireland - 11 wins 1 loss
- 🏴Wales - 10 wins 2 losses
- 🏴England - 6 wins 6 losses
- 🇿🇦️South Africa – 7 wins 7 losses
- 🇦🇺️Australia – 4 wins 13 losses
- 🏴Scotland – 7 wins 5 losses
- 🇫🇷️France – 3 wins 10 losses (playing Fiji as I post)
- 🇦🇷️Argentina – 2 wins 12 losses
That’s all 🤓
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@taniwharugby said in 2018 November Internationals:
Interesting stats posted by Yalden, especially when you look at total games played, France most in NH and Aus most overall.
I do love a good #StatOnASunday, so as the sun sets on the 2018 international season (photo pun) here’s the win loss records of the Rugby Championship nations, Home Unions & France in 2018 (in order of last weeks World Rugby Rankings)
- 🇳🇿️New Zealand - 12 wins 2 losses
- 🇮🇪️Ireland - 11 wins 1 loss
- 🏴Wales - 10 wins 2 losses
- 🏴England - 6 wins 6 losses
- 🇿🇦️South Africa – 7 wins 7 losses
- 🇦🇺️Australia – 4 wins 13 losses
- 🏴Scotland – 7 wins 5 losses
- 🇫🇷️France – 3 wins 10 losses (playing Fiji as I post)
- 🇦🇷️Argentina – 2 wins 12 losses
That’s all 🤓
I don't think those are correct. Australia haven't played 17 tests this year. They've played 13.
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Jordan Taufua will indeed play for the Barbarians against Argentina. The squad mostly consists of South Africans, which is not surprising with Erasmus as the coach. He has, however, included a lot of current Springboks. That's a bit odd (and disappointing), I think, because isn't it tradition to invite mostly former or fringe test players? This is basically a "current Springboks + a few others" team. Hopefully, we'll still get to see a Barbarians style of rugby.
Taufua and Debreczeni are the non-capped players.
Barbarians squad
Backs
Tomasso Benvenuti (Benetton & Italy)
Damian de Allende (Stormers & South Africa)
Jack Debreczeni (Chiefs)
Aphiwe Dyanti (Lions & South Africa)
Tom English (Rebels & Australia)
Leon Fukofuka (Auckland & Tonga)
Elton Jantjies (Lions & South Africa)
Jesse Kriel (Bulls & South Africa)
Frank Lomani (Rebels & Fiji)
Handre Pollard (Bulls & South Africa)Forwards
Schalk Brits (Stormers & South Africa)
Wyatt Crockett (Crusaders & New Zealand)
Lood de Jager (Bulls & South Africa)
Pieter-Steph du Toit (Stormers & South Africa)
Luke Jones (Bordeaux Begles & Australia)
Steven Kitshoff (Stormers & South Africa)
Siya Kolisi (Stormers & South Africa)
Juan Manuel Leguizamon (Jaguares & Argentina)
Malcolm Marx (Lions & South Africa)
Alexandre Menini (Lyon & France)
Trevor Nayakane (Bulls & South Africa)
Sikhumbuzo Notshe (Stormers & South Africa)
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Lots and lots and lots of Saffas. Not really an international Barbarians XV. It's a shame not to see more Wallabies and All Blacks in there.
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@sparky Yep, that's what I said.
Last year, the Deans and Robertson coached squad included a lot of Kiwis, but they were not current test players and that game was played before the November window. This one is after the November window, so a lot more players would have been available. I don't know why he picked so many current Springboks; it's disappointing. Hopefully we still get to see a free flowing Baabaas style of rugby, with some original, crazy moves.
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@stargazer said in 2018 November Internationals:
, I think, because isn't it tradition to invite mostly former or fringe test players?
I don't think this was ever tradition, it was just about the best squad that they could pull in - some Baabaas squads in the past have basically been the Lions.
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@nepia said in 2018 November Internationals:
ould pull in - some Baabaas squads in the past have basically been the Lions.
think they always included an uncapped player as a tradition.
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@taniwharugby said in 2018 November Internationals:
@nepia said in 2018 November Internationals:
ould pull in - some Baabaas squads in the past have basically been the Lions.
think they always included an uncapped player as a tradition.
Yep, I think that's been the one nailed on tradition.
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Was directly a result of the fallout from Benjamin Fall incident. Gardner didn’t want to penalise Farrell, SA win the match, then Gosper tweet that the decision was wrong.
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Nice Russian try.
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@daffy-jaffy kicking the ball too much is All Blacks style now
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@bones said in 2018 November Internationals:
@daffy-jaffy kicking the ball too much is All Blacks style now
We have been kicking the ball a lot for some years now. Just the reasons why have changed.
Previously it was to back our defence to create a turnover/spilled ball, then use our transition to attack to smash an unorganised defence. (opposition have now realised that they just need to work on ball security and not do much after this and they will win the possession and territory stats)
Now it is to try and break up the rush/flat defence. If you can keep putting the ball into contestable areas the defence has to keep reorganising to get behind it and are more wary of committing too hard. Trick is to make those kicks/stabs to space 50/50 contests at worst.
