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Can anyone in Europe or France ( @mooshld ?) shed any light into what's going in Paris? How bad are these riots? And who is actually rioting? And are they really rioting about fuel taxes?
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@no-quarter It would be really handy if @Parcy-v2-0 AKA Parc Des Princes was still on here
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@no-quarter said in French Politics:
Can anyone in Europe or France ( @mooshld ?) shed any light into what's going in Paris? How bad are these riots? And who is actually rioting? And are they really rioting about fuel taxes?
From what I've read, the fuel taxes are symptomatic of an increasing political and economic focus on the major cities/ metropolitan areas and the impact this is having on the rest of the country.
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@dogmeat said in French Politics:
Qu'ils mangent de la brioche
@jc said in French Politics:
@dogmeat said in French Politics:
Qu'ils mangent de la brioche
Mais non Monsieur Dogmeat, ils peuvent avoir une intolérance au gluten. Quelle dommage.
What would we do without being Google's translate function ...
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@booboo said in French Politics:
@dogmeat said in French Politics:
Qu'ils mangent de la brioche
@jc said in French Politics:
@dogmeat said in French Politics:
Qu'ils mangent de la brioche
Mais non Monsieur Dogmeat, ils peuvent avoir une intolérance au gluten. Quelle dommage.
What would we do without being Google's translate function ...
Yep, I speak fluent Google.
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Saw videos today in Paris of armoured vehicles emblazoned with the EU flag being deployed against protestors...that's the issue right there. Macron is not a president representing the French people, he's only serving his globalist EU overlords.
The vid I saw was on facebook this is as close as I could find to it on youtube
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@rembrandt said in French Politics:
Macron is not a president representing the French people, he's only serving his globalist EU overlords.
What?
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@antipodean He's a pro-EU globalist with no interest in France as a nation or the French as a people. The French have started to realise this polls have him at 18% support now. At this rate they're just gifting Rassemblement National support.
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@antipodean said in French Politics:
@rembrandt said in French Politics:
Macron is not a president representing the French people, he's only serving his globalist EU overlords.
What?
He’s a fluffybunny .
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@rembrandt said in French Politics:
@antipodean He's a pro-EU globalist with no interest in France as a nation or the French as a people. The French have started to realise this polls have him at 18% support now. At this rate they're just gifting Rassemblement National support.
That's not terribly far from his first round vote anyway (24%). Macron is a free marketer, so of course he's a globalist. I don't know why this is presented as a bad thing. And the same holds for the EU.
The argument that he's pandering to urbanites is a different matter because the Rural French believe they're being impacted to implement policies for the wishes of those in metropolitan areas. In much the same way people here are tired of policy discussion being dominated by inner-city NIMBYs.
@frank said in French Politics:
@rembrandt Perhaps this is why the pro-nationalist Italian leaders are currently polling around 60% (though early days)
Seriously I'd ignore Italy in any discussion of politics. They're a laughing stock - changing parties more often than they change their underpants.
More broadly if people want to complain about globalism, then I'm more than prepared for them to become closed shops and see what it does to their standard of living. Time for millions of idiots to learn a valuable economic lesson.
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@antipodean It's not the free marketeer aspect of Globalism that people are so concerned about. Force mass migration from 3rd world countries plus policy and laws determined by unelected officials detrimental to the average citizen for spurious reasons are the bigger issue.
I wouldn't count Italy out. What has happened there is indicative of a growing movement throughout Europe, it is still early days but they're not going to be last country to go that way.
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