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  • DuluthD Offline
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    @sparky said in NH club rugby:

    Ian Foster, Warren Gatland, Milton Haig, Jamie Joseph, Scott Robertson and Joe Schmidt are the contenders to take over from Steve Hansen.

    Milton Haig? Deans would have a better chance

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    @Derm-McCrum just watching the end of this - ref did everything in her power to try and get the "overdog" the win. Very reluctant to penalise several Glasgow offences now and then a weak penalty for a Treviso player not rolling away - when a Glasgow player was pretty much holding him in place.

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    Hah and then doing her absolute best to not award a penalty for the clearest offside you'll ever see.

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    @Duluth Deans will back Scott Robertson this time around, but might be part of his coaching team.

    Georgia have won the Rugby Europe International Championships in 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016 and 2018 under Haig. Very much the outsider among the names I mentioned, but I could see him throw his hat into the ring later this year.

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    @sparky said in NH club rugby:

    @rotated

    Gregor Townsend could be involved with the Lions tour to South Africa in 2021 which would open up a spot for Dave Rennie with Scotland.

    Hold your horses.

    CV first please.

    Done sweet FA as far as I'm concerned.

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    @MiketheSnow said in NH club rugby:

    @sparky said in NH club rugby:

    @rotated

    Gregor Townsend could be involved with the Lions tour to South Africa in 2021 which would open up a spot for Dave Rennie with Scotland.

    Hold your horses.

    CV first please.

    Done sweet FA as far as I'm concerned.

    Agreed, but look at the options. Head coach? Schmidt would be the obvious choice if he were still around but after that? Farrell is a likely contender for an assistant’s gig and after that I’m struggling.

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    @sparky said in NH club rugby:

    @rotated

    Gregor Townsend could be involved with the Lions tour to South Africa in 2021 which would open up a spot for Dave Rennie with Scotland.

    Unlikely that would be anything more than a secondment for Townsend though - not sure how appealing the Scotland role is at all to be honest (Cotter walked away from it, best you can hope for is a series of well timed upsets). Getting a Scotland team with the best four players on Lions duty to tour around Fiji and Japan for a few weeks hardly sounds like worth hanging around for.

    It really depends what Rennie's long term aspiration is. He hasn't followed the traditional path by any stretch - he could have written his own ticket in European club rugby as early as 2000 but did the IRANZ thing and waited a long time for his crack above NPC level.

    It wouldn't shock me at all if Rennie would see an AB assistant role (dependent on the HC) as a better landing spot than grinding it out in the 6N. Caveat to all of this being if England bomb out and Eddie goes I could see anyone outside of Foster and Schmidt taking that role if offered. In most ways it is a better gig than being part of the ABs set up following the last 12 years.

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    One hundred minute game and bath lose when down to 11 men.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/109762548/todd-blackadder-refuses-to-blame-ref-for-flurry-of-red-and-yellow-cards-in-bath-defeat

    As far as I was aware, if you are off with a yellow once time is up on the clock, you can't come back. Time is up, the extra time shown is not relevant. There's no injury time any more.

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    @Machpants said in NH club rugby:

    As far as I was aware, if you are off with a yellow once time is up on the clock, you can't come back. Time is up, the extra time shown is not relevant. There's no injury time any more.

    never really thought about it, but not sure; if you get a YC in the 1st half and then the half goes for 45 mins, the extra time counts as your time off the park, so would assume while the clock is ticking, so would your 10 mins in the bin?

    You can only come back on with a break in play, which a scrum reset would be surely?

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    @taniwharugby said in NH club rugby:

    @Machpants said in NH club rugby:

    As far as I was aware, if you are off with a yellow once time is up on the clock, you can't come back. Time is up, the extra time shown is not relevant. There's no injury time any more.

    never really thought about it, but not sure; if you get a YC in the 1st half and then the half goes for 45 mins, the extra time counts as your time off the park, so would assume while the clock is ticking, so would your 10 mins in the bin?

    You can only come back on with a break in play, which a scrum reset would be surely?

    Correct. On your first half example. The YC clock continues if the first half clock continues past 40 mins.
    On second-half - the clock only continues until there's a break in play and game is over, unless it was a penalty, in which case it might be arguable that a player could come back on. Don't know if a scrum reset would allow you to as well.

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    @rotated said in NH club rugby:

    @sparky said in NH club rugby:

    @rotated

    Gregor Townsend could be involved with the Lions tour to South Africa in 2021 which would open up a spot for Dave Rennie with Scotland.

    Unlikely that would be anything more than a secondment for Townsend though - not sure how appealing the Scotland role is at all to be honest (Cotter walked away from it, best you can hope for is a series of well timed upsets). Getting a Scotland team with the best four players on Lions duty to tour around Fiji and Japan for a few weeks hardly sounds like worth hanging around for.

    It really depends what Rennie's long term aspiration is. He hasn't followed the traditional path by any stretch - he could have written his own ticket in European club rugby as early as 2000 but did the IRANZ thing and waited a long time for his crack above NPC level.

    It wouldn't shock me at all if Rennie would see an AB assistant role (dependent on the HC) as a better landing spot than grinding it out in the 6N. Caveat to all of this being if England bomb out and Eddie goes I could see anyone outside of Foster and Schmidt taking that role if offered. In most ways it is a better gig than being part of the ABs set up following the last 12 years.

    That's a kind way of putting it. Another view might be Cotter didn't get his contract renewed because they wanted to bring Toonie in so they didn't lose him from Scottish rugby and he'd done his time at the Weegies.

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    wow, sad 😞

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/109781197/french-rugby-rocked-by-fourth-death-in-eight-months

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    @taniwharugby Jeez, that's bad 😞

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    @Machpants said in NH club rugby:

    @taniwharugby Jeez, that's bad 😞

    Absolutely terrible. This is going to bring in changes - before the World Cup I reckon.

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    Perhaps the French should look at what they're doing wrong. And before WR have a knee-jerk reaction, they should determine the circumstances and see if a rule change would ensure it wouldn't have eventuated.

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    @Derm-McCrum Is there some stats on rugby deaths world wide? Why is France doing so badly at it? Hopefully that'll be looked at, not knee-jerk... I'm not holding out much hope tho.

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/109807792/nabbing-an-all-black-not-always-the-answer-for-european-clubs

    I'd imagine Lima and Julian make a big impact at the dinner table though....

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    @canefan I wonder if they are aware that most of the ABs they buy either have only a few caps for a reason, or the ones with a decent amount of caps, are usually past thier best...

    Looking back, very few have left in thier prime, or at least still with more than just a couple of years left...McAlister, Piutau, Vito, Luatua, although the 2 latter had not established themselves as 1st choice ABs (for one reason or another...)

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    @taniwharugby said in NH club rugby:

    @canefan I wonder if they are aware that most of the ABs they buy either have only a few caps for a reason, or the ones with a decent amount of caps, are usually past thier best...

    Looking back, very few have left in thier prime, or at least still with more than just a couple of years left...McAlister, Piutau, Vito, Luatua, although the 2 latter had not established themselves as 1st choice ABs (for one reason or another...)

    I guess they figure they should still be better than the guys they have. It's lazy, like the ozzies when they used to pay hand over fist for their league converts, but it is easier than developing their own talent. Didn't I read somewhere that England has the highest player numbers at amateur level?

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    @canefan highly likely, I was astounded at the number of clubs they have over there, the one I played for had 5 senior sides, yet on any given Saturday, 2 or 3 of them couldnt field a full team (one time we started with 13, and during the game one guy got 2 yellow cards, then a red...again, haha) and none of them wanted to be the team to be absorbed into the other 4...

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