• Categories
Collapse

The Silver Fern

QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Rugby Matches
chiefsjaguares
358 Posts 53 Posters 14.2k Views
QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • boobooB Offline
    boobooB Offline
    booboo
    replied to E African Troll on last edited by
    #40

    @Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

    Meh

    Chiefs pack is run of the mill with a few star players

    Jaguares play 4 SA side who ALL have better packs than the Chiefs

    Which is why, of course, those SA sides finished so highly up the tables, having demolished the NZ sides with those superior packs.

    No, wait, ....

    I'm intrigued why you think the SA packs are superior -- and this is a game-winning attribute -- when it clearly isn't.

    The Chiefs don't need to win it in the forwards. All they need to do is not lose it.

    Having a very good pack is nice starting point but isn't much use if your team is badly coached,has a lack of quality starting #10

    Nepotism can also affect the team negatively Poor skill levels as well can be detrimental to a team Having your team decimated by players going to Europe/Japan will also likely weaken your team overall

    The above scenarios explain why the SA sides whilst having dominant packs have struggled to be consistent this season

    Let's not kid ourselves Chiefs are closer to SA sides than Jaguares

    You have Crusaders Jaguares Hurricanes and Brumbies on a level way above everyone else

    We're looking at a 2 game sample for the Chiefs 😱 😱

    Chiefs did enough to finish 7th.

    3rd in the pool that delivered 4 quarter finalists.

    Beat some teams with MAAAAASSSSIVVVE forward packs.

    Obviously they have a piss weak forward pack ...

    I'm thinking Jagulars win this, and are deserved favourites, but I'm not convinced by your logic @Jaguares4real.

    60/40 Jagulars to win.

    1 Reply Last reply
    2
  • StargazerS Offline
    StargazerS Offline
    Stargazer
    wrote on last edited by
    #41

    Chiefs

    1 Atu Moli (37)
    2 Nathan Harris (57)
    3 Angus Ta’avao (31)
    4 Brodie Retallick (106)
    5 Tyler Ardron (27)
    6 Lachlan Boshier (43)
    7 Sam Cane (110) (c)
    8 Pita Gus Sowakula (14)
    9 Brad Weber (71)
    10 Jack Debreczeni (5)
    11 Sean Wainui (25)
    12 Anton Lienert-Brown (68)
    13 Tumua Manu (15)
    14 Shaun Stevenson (43)
    15 Solomon Alaimalo (37)

    Reserves:
    16 Samisoni Taukei’aho (25)
    17 Aidan Ross (24)
    18 Nepo Laulala (31)
    19 Jesse Parete (23)
    20 Mitchell Jacobson (3)
    21 Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi (31)
    22 Marty McKenzie (30)
    23 Alex Nankivell (21)/Ataata Moeakiola (9)

    () = Gallagher Chiefs caps in brackets

    Unavailable for selection:
    Bailyn Sullivan, Damian McKenzie, Etene Nanai-Seturo, Fin Hoeata, Kane Hames, Laghlan McWhannell, Liam Polwart, Luke Jacobson, Michael Allardice, Mitchell Brown, Mitchell Karpik, Reuben O’Neill, Sam McNicol, Taleni Seu and Tiaan Falcon.

    https://www.chiefs.co.nz/news-item/gallagher-chiefs-energised-for-investec-super-rugby-quarter-final-against-jaguares

    1 Reply Last reply
    3
  • CrucialC Offline
    CrucialC Offline
    Crucial
    wrote on last edited by
    #42

    Can’t argue with that line up at all.

    HoorooH 1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • HoorooH Offline
    HoorooH Offline
    Hooroo
    replied to Crucial on last edited by
    #43

    @Crucial said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

    Can’t argue with that line up at all.

    Chiefs by 10!

    1 Reply Last reply
    4
  • taniwharugbyT Offline
    taniwharugbyT Offline
    taniwharugby
    replied to E African Troll on last edited by
    #44

    @Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

    You have Crusaders Jaguares Hurricanes and Brumbies on a level way above everyone else

    πŸ€”

    E 1 Reply Last reply
    6
  • SiamS Offline
    SiamS Offline
    Siam
    wrote on last edited by
    #45

    Debresceni deserves a lot of credit for how he's played lately. Noticable that chiefs playing well since he's been there

    1 Reply Last reply
    2
  • boobooB Offline
    boobooB Offline
    booboo
    wrote on last edited by
    #46

    That tight five ... only 4 All Blacks and a Canadian international, with only one AB on the bench.

    Handy looking team.

    1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • E Offline
    E Offline
    E African Troll Banned
    replied to taniwharugby on last edited by
    #47

    @taniwharugby said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

    @Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

    You have Crusaders Jaguares Hurricanes and Brumbies on a level way above everyone else

    πŸ€”

    For all the Kiwis who don't watch Super Rugby out of NZ sides 😡 😡

    Brumbies won 10 games including their last 6 in a row

    7 game winning streak at home Won their conference by 14 points

    Beat Stormers in CT

    Gave Jaguares a good game in BA when Jaguares were starting to fire

    Battered Bulls + Lions at home

    Battered Chiefs at home

    Best win of the season though was beating Blues at home coming off a tough 2 game tour of SA + ARG whilst Blues were fresh off a bye

    Need I go on...........

    I'm here all week for any other parochial Kiwis πŸ‘€ πŸ‘€

    HoorooH taniwharugbyT 2 Replies Last reply
    1
  • M Offline
    M Offline
    Machpants
    wrote on last edited by
    #48

    LOL Best win beating the (13th place) Blues....

    I don't disagree that the Brumbies have been good, but that is a real reach.

    1 Reply Last reply
    5
  • HoorooH Offline
    HoorooH Offline
    Hooroo
    replied to E African Troll on last edited by Hooroo
    #49

    @Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

    @taniwharugby said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

    @Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

    You have Crusaders Jaguares Hurricanes and Brumbies on a level way above everyone else

    πŸ€”

    For all the Kiwis who don't watch Super Rugby out of NZ sides 😡 😡

    Brumbies won 10 games including their last 6 in a row

    7 game winning streak at home Won their conference by 14 points

    Beat Stormers in CT

    Gave Jaguares a good game in BA when Jaguares were starting to fire

    Battered Bulls + Lions at home

    Battered Chiefs at home

    Best win of the season though was beating Blues at home coming off a tough 2 game tour of SA + ARG whilst Blues were fresh off a bye

    Need I go on...........

    I'm here all week for any other parochial Kiwis πŸ‘€ πŸ‘€

    The more I think about this game, the more I think we will win. Your team is no where near as good as you think it is. We finally have a near full strength team and will beat you by at least a converted try.

    You still had a good season and nothing to be ashamed of, for sure.

    E ACT CrusaderA 2 Replies Last reply
    2
  • taniwharugbyT Offline
    taniwharugbyT Offline
    taniwharugby
    replied to E African Troll on last edited by taniwharugby
    #50

    @Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

    Best win of the season though was beating Blues at home coming off a tough 2 game tour of SA + ARG whilst Blues were fresh off a bye

    ah righto....any statement that includes 'best win over blues' ...

    alt text

    amusing how you are dismissve of Kiwis opinions and find rubbish statements ot back up yours.

    Dont get me wrong, the Jaguares have played well, and deserve to be clear favorites in this match, but to be as dismissive of the Chiefs as you have, and then to question how much rugby I watch?

    Based on your pumping, the Jaguares should win by about 20 points, although I suspect some of what are posting is just trolling.

    E 1 Reply Last reply
    2
  • E Offline
    E Offline
    E African Troll Banned
    replied to Hooroo on last edited by
    #51

    @Hooroo

    The ignorance is embarrassing to see

    You'd think Jaguares were playing 2012 Chiefs ffs

    Can we have some Kiwis on here who've actually watched more than 1 or 2 fucking Jaguares games this season

    7 wins and a negative Points difference hardly screams Champion Side πŸ˜€ πŸ˜€

    Only 17 pts behind Hurricanes & 22 points behind Crusaders

    HoorooH StargazerS Y 3 Replies Last reply
    0
  • HoorooH Offline
    HoorooH Offline
    Hooroo
    replied to E African Troll on last edited by
    #52

    @Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

    @Hooroo

    The ignorance is embarrassing to see

    You'd think Jaguares were playing 2012 Chiefs ffs

    Can we have some Kiwis on here who've actually watched more than 1 or 2 fucking Jaguares games this season

    7 wins and a negative Points difference hardly screams Champion Side πŸ˜€ πŸ˜€

    Only 17 pts behind Hurricanes & 22 points behind Crusaders

    Don't get me wrong, we're not a champion side. Thing is, neither are the Jaguares.

    Going to be a real humiliator for you when we win.

    It's not ignorance either, it's arrogance

    1 Reply Last reply
    3
  • StargazerS Offline
    StargazerS Offline
    Stargazer
    replied to E African Troll on last edited by
    #53

    @Jaguares4real I have watched all Jaguares games, all Chiefs games, and almost all other games.

    The Jaguares have improved since the beginning of the season. The Chiefs have improved a lot since the beginning of the season.

    I see the Jaguares as clear favourites for this game, but I agree with others that you too easily dismiss the Chiefs' chances.

    I actually find the Jaguares more dangerous in the backs than in the forwards.

    Sorry, I don't have more time to post a longer contribution, but I think you're underestimating the Chiefs.

    1 Reply Last reply
    6
  • E Offline
    E Offline
    E African Troll Banned
    replied to taniwharugby on last edited by
    #54

    @taniwharugby said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

    our pumping, the Jaguares should win by about 20 po

    I said it was their BEST win

    This was said in the context of a tough 2 game tour where they had to make over 200 tackles and hold off a Stormers team formidable at home

    Then backed it up against the Jaguares who were starting to hit their straps

    That game was a real street fight Brumbies impressed in defeat

    They THEN flew black home to play an team who hadn't played the previous week and won convincingly

    CONTEXT matters

    BTW Brumbies best PERFORMANCE was hammering the Chiefs but I don't want to remind Chiefs fans of that....................

    RoninWCR 1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • M Offline
    M Offline
    Machpants
    wrote on last edited by
    #55

    I think some forfeits need to be done by the losing supporters, now this is getting tasty banter.

    1 Reply Last reply
    5
  • StargazerS Offline
    StargazerS Offline
    Stargazer
    wrote on last edited by
    #56

    7c2171a1-e08f-40f9-bc8f-5527b5675945-image.png

    E 1 Reply Last reply
    2
  • E Offline
    E Offline
    E African Troll Banned
    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
    #57

    @Stargazer

    Boffelli being fit is a massive boost for Jaguares

    Guy is a major strike weapon and is dominant in contestable kicks

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • mariner4lifeM Offline
    mariner4lifeM Offline
    mariner4life
    wrote on last edited by
    #58

    pffft, that team doesn't even have one New Zealander in it, they have no chance

    E HoorooH 2 Replies Last reply
    11
  • E Offline
    E Offline
    E African Troll Banned
    replied to mariner4life on last edited by
    #59

    @mariner4life said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

    pffft, that team doesn't even have one New Zealander in it, they have no chance

    I know

    I need to get back on message then

    The irony is that Jaguares this year have largely resembled a Kiwi SR team in that they kick alot and very well

    Deadly in transitions from turnovers and unstructured play

    Willingness to attack breakdowns and concede penalties

    Good ball skills to boot

    mariner4lifeM 1 Reply Last reply
    1

QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs
Rugby Matches
chiefsjaguares
  • Login

  • Don't have an account? Register

  • Login or register to search.
  • First post
    Last post
0
  • Categories
  • Login

  • Don't have an account? Register

  • Login or register to search.