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    @WillieTheWaiter yes, for the contentious decisions the arguments are pretty sound.

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    I think there are one too many fullbacks and one two few 10s, which Jordie is not. I think they need three, as if Barrett is injured early but could be ready later in the tournament, you want two 10s there for the games until that time. I imagine that Josh Ioane will get his chance in the 4N. I'm also less than convinced that they will finally pick Akira Ioane.

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    I'd like to NOT see Jordie Barrett in the squad.

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    @WillieTheWaiter said in World Cup Squad Positions:

    pretty decent article.. squad seems about right

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/113786024/rugby-world-cup-the-all-blacks-squad-is-coming-into-view

    Related but unrelated question ... is Cully the best rugby writer in NZ at the moment? Certainly is for me. Not bad for an Irish fella living in Dunedin who writes for the Sydney Morning Herald!

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    @gt12 said in World Cup Squad Positions:

    I think there are one too many fullbacks and one two few 10s, which Jordie is not. I think they need three, as if Barrett is injured early but could be ready later in the tournament, you want two 10s there for the games until that time. I imagine that Josh Ioane will get his chance in the 4N. I'm also less than convinced that they will finally pick Akira Ioane.

    There's certainly less noise this year.

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    @antipodean said in World Cup Squad Positions:

    @gt12 said in World Cup Squad Positions:

    I think there are one too many fullbacks and one two few 10s, which Jordie is not. I think they need three, as if Barrett is injured early but could be ready later in the tournament, you want two 10s there for the games until that time. I imagine that Josh Ioane will get his chance in the 4N. I'm also less than convinced that they will finally pick Akira Ioane.

    There's certainly less noise this year.

    I'm a fan of Akira, but his form hasn't been great through the back end of the season. If they pick him, it's because they'll back themselves to get the best out of him. His upside is just massive -- if he can get the discipline and work ethic to go with it he'd be a world beater

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    @nzzp said in World Cup Squad Positions:

    @antipodean said in World Cup Squad Positions:

    @gt12 said in World Cup Squad Positions:

    I think there are one too many fullbacks and one two few 10s, which Jordie is not. I think they need three, as if Barrett is injured early but could be ready later in the tournament, you want two 10s there for the games until that time. I imagine that Josh Ioane will get his chance in the 4N. I'm also less than convinced that they will finally pick Akira Ioane.

    There's certainly less noise this year.

    I'm a fan of Akira, but his form hasn't been great through the back end of the season. If they pick him, it's because they'll back themselves to get the best out of him. His upside is just massive -- if he can get the discipline and work ethic to go with it he'd be a world beater

    Perhaps a rest is what he needs, but the change in his game presumably to suit what the ABs wanted to see more of or having Coventry at the Blues has shortened the highlight reel somewhat.

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    For those that can’t access the article, below is Cully’s squad.

    Possible 31-man All Blacks squad for the Rugby World Cup:

    Hookers: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Nathan Harris
    Props: Joe Moody, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Ofa Tuungafasi
    Locks: Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett
    Loose forwards: Kieran Read (c), Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Vaea Fifita, Akira Ioane
    Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber
    No 10s/15: Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga, Jordie Barrett
    Midfielders: Sonny Bill Williams, Ryan Crotty, Anton Lienert-Brown, Jack Goodhue
    Outside backs: David Havili, Ben Smith, Rieko Ioane, George Bridge

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    @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

    For those that can’t access the article, below is Cully’s squad.

    Possible 31-man All Blacks squad for the Rugby World Cup:

    Hookers: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Nathan Harris
    Props: Joe Moody, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Ofa Tuungafasi
    Locks: Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett
    Loose forwards: Kieran Read (c), Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Vaea Fifita, Akira Ioane
    Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber
    No 10s/15: Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga, Jordie Barrett
    Midfielders: Sonny Bill Williams, Ryan Crotty, Anton Lienert-Brown, Jack Goodhue
    Outside backs: David Havili, Ben Smith, Rieko Ioane, George Bridge

    I've seen nothing to suggest that Akira Ioane will make the squad (Based on his play now and when he was previously unselected)

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    From Cully’s squad the only questions I have are:

    Harris vs Coltman
    Patty T vs Fifita vs Hemopo
    Weber vs TTT
    Inclusion of Ioane
    Bridge vs Naholo

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    @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

    From Cully’s squad the only questions I have are:

    Harris vs Coltman
    Patty T vs Fifita vs Hemopo
    Weber vs TTT
    Inclusion of Ioane
    Bridge vs Naholo

    I would change that into:

    Harris vs Coltman
    Patty T vs Fifita vs A Ioane
    Weber vs TTT
    Bridge vs Naholo

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    @Stargazer said in World Cup Squad Positions:

    @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

    From Cully’s squad the only questions I have are:

    Harris vs Coltman
    Patty T vs Fifita vs Hemopo
    Weber vs TTT
    Inclusion of Ioane
    Bridge vs Naholo

    I would change that into:

    Harris vs Coltman
    Patty T vs Fifita vs A Ioane
    Weber vs TTT
    Bridge vs Naholo

    thats how I see it...although TRC squad should sort a few things out anyway

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    @Hooroo said in World Cup Squad Positions:

    @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

    For those that can’t access the article, below is Cully’s squad.

    Possible 31-man All Blacks squad for the Rugby World Cup:

    Hookers: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Nathan Harris
    Props: Joe Moody, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Ofa Tuungafasi
    Locks: Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett
    Loose forwards: Kieran Read (c), Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Vaea Fifita, Akira Ioane
    Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber
    No 10s/15: Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga, Jordie Barrett
    Midfielders: Sonny Bill Williams, Ryan Crotty, Anton Lienert-Brown, Jack Goodhue
    Outside backs: David Havili, Ben Smith, Rieko Ioane, George Bridge

    I've seen nothing to suggest that Akira Ioane will make the squad (Based on his play now and when he was previously unselected)

    I actually didn’t see his name in there. Yeah I don’t think he will make it.

    Also another one that is a question mark and that is Havili. Can’t see them taking both Jordie and Havili.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

    @Hooroo said in World Cup Squad Positions:

    @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

    For those that can’t access the article, below is Cully’s squad.

    Possible 31-man All Blacks squad for the Rugby World Cup:

    Hookers: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Nathan Harris
    Props: Joe Moody, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Ofa Tuungafasi
    Locks: Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett
    Loose forwards: Kieran Read (c), Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Vaea Fifita, Akira Ioane
    Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber
    No 10s/15: Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga, Jordie Barrett
    Midfielders: Sonny Bill Williams, Ryan Crotty, Anton Lienert-Brown, Jack Goodhue
    Outside backs: David Havili, Ben Smith, Rieko Ioane, George Bridge

    I've seen nothing to suggest that Akira Ioane will make the squad (Based on his play now and when he was previously unselected)

    I actually didn’t see his name in there. Yeah I don’t think he will make it.

    Also another one that is a question mark and that is Havili. Can’t see them taking both Jordie and Havili.

    That depends on the role they want Jordie to play, but yes, based on form Havili should make the squad, but I suspect they'll go for Jordie.

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    @taniwharugby said in World Cup Squad Positions:

    @Stargazer said in World Cup Squad Positions:

    @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

    From Cully’s squad the only questions I have are:

    Harris vs Coltman
    Patty T vs Fifita vs Hemopo
    Weber vs TTT
    Inclusion of Ioane
    Bridge vs Naholo

    I would change that into:

    Harris vs Coltman
    Patty T vs Fifita vs A Ioane
    Weber vs TTT
    Bridge vs Naholo

    thats how I see it...although TRC squad should sort a few things out anyway

    On form you'd have to agree, but Harris is reportedly a better scrummager.

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    @Stargazer shame Ennor cant cover 10 like Jordie can....

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    @taniwharugby Ennor can't cover fullback either, but I've no doubt he'll smash it in the ABs squad of 2020 as a centre/wing!

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    @Stargazer could argue JB cant (shouldnt) cover FB most of the time either... 😉

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    @taniwharugby said in World Cup Squad Positions:

    @Stargazer said in World Cup Squad Positions:

    @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

    From Cully’s squad the only questions I have are:

    Harris vs Coltman
    Patty T vs Fifita vs Hemopo
    Weber vs TTT
    Inclusion of Ioane
    Bridge vs Naholo

    I would change that into:

    Harris vs Coltman
    Patty T vs Fifita vs A Ioane
    Weber vs TTT
    Bridge vs Naholo

    thats how I see it...although TRC squad should sort a few things out anyway

    The TRC squad is going to be huge, as they are resting a pile o players for the first test vs Arg. So I think it will include all of the above, and they'll decide from that and in camp.

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    @Machpants I thought it was going to be a 41-man squad?

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