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    Wow, Hansen just said that Air NZ has changed their flight and they have to fly back directly after the test, to arrive home on Monday morning. If Air NZ hadn't done that, they would have been home much later (a day?).

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    @sparky fuuuck gutted I missed the first half.

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    We did not establish go forward close to the ruck. Spread the ball wide too often when it was not on. Reece was good for the Crusaders but international rugby? When our other Fijians came through you immediately thought yes they can impact the game. I think he is too small. Pumas defense was good but all backline defenses are hard to break these days so that’s is why we need to establish more front foot ball. ennor is going to be the goods.

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    Los Pumas let this game slip away

    They did 90 % of the job but fucked up in a couple of areas:

    Attack once in ABs 22 was terrible

    Sanchez was very rusty - 1st game in 6 weeks and it showed Missing an easy 2nd half penalty was costly Only needed a pen or DG to win the game

    Barrett OTOH was speculator save for a blind pass in 2nd half after a line break

    Good Match for Los Pumas took the ABs to the brink I suspect many NZ fans would have been very nervous & might need to change their underwear post match

    When the last time NZ score Zero points in a 2nd half of a match + only spent 30 seconds in ARG's 22 if he made the kick circa 50 mins in

    AUS are there for the taking & SA have nothing on the ABs re. attacking flair and imagination

    ABs threw alot at Los Pumas and ARG did well to cope save for a few breaks imitated by Beady Barrett

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    Anyone get a closer look at what looked like a no arms shoulder charge on Ardie? Reckon that would have been a big screen slomo job at most other stadiums.

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    Ardie and stand out for being good. Jordie a stand out for being a waste of space.
    Ardie, BBBR and A Smith top 3 for me. Cane close behind.
    Hated this forcing passes in traffic tactic though

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    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    Anyone get a closer look at what looked like a no arms shoulder charge on Ardie? Reckon that would have been a big screen slomo job at most other stadiums.

    No close look at all but looked like a SBW league special

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    Yeah I was very surprised that wasn't caught, tho I didn't have a good enough look to confirm it

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    @broughie said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    We did not establish go forward close to the ruck. Spread the ball wide too often when it was not on. Reece was good for the Crusaders but international rugby? When our other Fijians came through you immediately thought yes they can impact the game. I think he is too small. Pumas defense was good but all backline defenses are hard to break these days so that’s is why we need to establish more front foot ball. ennor is going to be the goods.

    Spot on. We also have some great forward runners. Those tactics worked beautifully in the first test against the Lions.

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    @98blueandgold said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    @Machpants disagree because these are the same issues we have been having against good structured D for a few years.
    The drop balls are a result of pressure caused by D. We looked rushed rather than threatening. Happening too often. ABs are a tempo team and when teams slow us down it becomes a contest, Eng/Ire/SA having better players at exploiting than Argies. Just structure and issues are same

    Largely agree Game was reminiscent of their last 2 games on 2018 EOYT

    Eng and Ire played a similar game and both sides were the better side

    Sadly for Pumas they did not take their chances and lost the game like Eng

    ABs had 23 turnovers & about 13-14 handling errors There was definitely an air of panic in their attack ALOT of 50-50 passes being chucked around carelessly Albeit under immense defensive duress by ARG

    Gap has closed btw ABs and rest of Tier 1 nations post 2015 RWC

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    @Crucial said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    Ardie and stand out for being good. Jordie a stand out for being a waste of space.
    Ardie, BBBR and A Smith top 3 for me. Cane close behind.
    Hated this forcing passes in traffic tactic though

    I don't get the love for Cane here. Did nobody see him drop it cold in that second half? Most players who do that get crucified here. He's probably short of a gallop, but at the moment Ardie is easily our best seven.

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    @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    @98blueandgold said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    @Machpants disagree because these are the same issues we have been having against good structured D for a few years.
    The drop balls are a result of pressure caused by D. We looked rushed rather than threatening. Happening too often. ABs are a tempo team and when teams slow us down it becomes a contest, Eng/Ire/SA having better players at exploiting than Argies. Just structure and issues are same

    Largely agree Game was reminiscent of their last 2 games on 2018 EOYT

    Eng and Ire played a similar game and both sides were the better side

    Sadly for Pumas they did not take their chances and lost the game like Eng

    ABs had 23 turnovers & about 13-14 handling errors There was definitely an air of panic in their attack ALOT of 50-50 passes being chucked around carelessly Albeit under immense defensive duress by ARG

    Gap has closed btw ABs and rest of Tier 1 nations post 2015 RWC

    Do you not understand the concept of keeping your powder dry?

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    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    I don't get the love for Cane here. Did nobody see him drop it cold in that second half? Most players who do that get crucified here. He's probably short of a gallop, but at the moment Ardie is easily our best seven.

    Probably given his 60 odd test record of quality play you aren't going to crucify a guy for dropping one ball in his first test back from massive back surgery? Just to see him out there not looking massively off the pace is a huge win IMO.

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    I actually think Reece had a good game. He got very few opportunities, but his much-criticised defence was good and he didn't make errors like other players.

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    @sparky said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    One of the worst All Black performance of all-time from Fifita. Totally out of his depth at this level.

    Reminiscent of Sione Lauaki (RIP) vs Wallabies in Sydney

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    @Stargazer said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    I actually think Reece had a good game. He got very few opportunities, but his much-criticised defence was good and he didn't make errors like other players.

    Have to agree. I was tempted to say in a game like that where such limited ball made it pass the centres anyone was going to look good on the wing if they just made their tackles... but then there is Jordie...

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    @Rancid-Schnitzel Ardie is our best player atm.

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    @rotated said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    I don't get the love for Cane here. Did nobody see him drop it cold in that second half? Most players who do that get crucified here. He's probably short of a gallop, but at the moment Ardie is easily our best seven.

    Probably given his 60 odd test record of quality play you aren't going to crucify a guy for dropping one ball in his first test back from massive back surgery? Just to see him out there not looking massively off the pace is a huge win IMO.

    Ah no, I'm not, but that's standard here for some player. But fark me a 60 odd test AB and captain should not be dropping those. That was schoolboy stuff and was massive opportunity missed.

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    @rotated said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    @Stargazer said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    I actually think Reece had a good game. He got very few opportunities, but his much-criticised defence was good and he didn't make errors like other players.

    Have to agree. I was tempted to say in a game like that where such limited ball made it pass the centres anyone was going to look good on the win if they just made their tackles... but then there is Jordie...

    He was okay but he's not sniffing the 31 man squad with a game like that
    Bender was NZ best backline player alongside B Barrett

    Jordie Barrett at wing won't be happening again Beyond having a big boot he looks lost at sea He might look flash vs Mickey Mouse side like Italy but not in BA

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    @Crucial said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    @98blueandgold said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    @Machpants disagree because these are the same issues we have been having against good structured D for a few years.
    The drop balls are a result of pressure caused by D. We looked rushed rather than threatening. Happening too often. ABs are a tempo team and when teams slow us down it becomes a contest, Eng/Ire/SA having better players at exploiting than Argies. Just structure and issues are same

    Largely agree Game was reminiscent of their last 2 games on 2018 EOYT

    Eng and Ire played a similar game and both sides were the better side

    Sadly for Pumas they did not take their chances and lost the game like Eng

    ABs had 23 turnovers & about 13-14 handling errors There was definitely an air of panic in their attack ALOT of 50-50 passes being chucked around carelessly Albeit under immense defensive duress by ARG

    Gap has closed btw ABs and rest of Tier 1 nations post 2015 RWC

    Do you not understand the concept of keeping your powder dry?

    Fire away as you seem to know something I'm missing out on.........

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