Dogs and bitches
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@Paekakboyz said in Dogs and bitches:
@raznomore does it ever stop moving?? Mates have a Kelpie and I swear that doggo is on speed!
They are manic.
Have a mate south of Sydney and his one has been given the duty of keeping the foxes away from the chooks. Now even my mate can't go near the chickens, they are the dogs flock. Bloody funny when dog puts them all to bed at night too. Don't mess with a Kelpie.
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@Snowy said in Dogs and bitches:
@MajorRage said in Dogs and bitches:
@Snowy said in Dogs and bitches:
@jegga said in Dogs and bitches:
What sort of mutt have you got ? Some are more strong willed than others
Yes a mutt. Cavalier spaniel / poodle. Some fancy name for them, but a mongrel.
Wife chose it because she is a teddy bear (bitch, not wife - although wife has her moments).
We just got exactly the same.
Got at 10 weeks, not too bad so far.
Wife treats it like a baby, I treat it like a dog.
Yep. They are a dog, ours sleeps shut in kennel, albeit in the house with us.
The breed are pretty smart critters. I was actually pretty strict on our girl when she was young. Apparently the imprinting happens early, so first year is important to establish the alphas. You'll probably end up with the constant companion like I have.
Yeah, I'm very strict. But I notice now she follows me around the kitchen and just sits and stares at me. Will also drop when requested sit/paw for treats.
Still has the odd excitement piss, but outside that does all her business outside. We have her in the "crate" (posh word for cage) at night. She howled like mental first night, since then nothing.
If I'm honest, I loved the first week, didn't enjoy the next 2 (what have we done!!!) and since then she's just started that getting under my skin phase. I think it'll improve even more when kids go back to school and routine is back in their lives.
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@MajorRage said in Dogs and bitches:
she follows me around the kitchen and just sits and stares at me
Good sign. She has an alpha.
The cage that our girl sleeps in was sold as a "cottage". Same thing, awful first night. Now puts herself to bed.
Excitement pissing goes away as bitches get older (yes). I have one staff member that that has always done the "excited to see you" thing and the last one was about when she was 8 months old (dog, not staff)).
Your last paragraph says it. I was seriously pissed off with the wife for her forcing me to get a puppy. It gets better - hence my bumping the thread.
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@MajorRage said in Dogs and bitches:
@Snowy read that before you amended that ... was wondering what sort of sick twisted conversation I had got involved with .
Ha. Didn't read well did it.
Before anyone asks - I could have had an 8 month old staff member, that pissed with excitement.
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@mariner4life my MIssus was the one keen as to get a dog*, I struck a deal and used it to my advantage for longer than I had expected to.
*more like a big lazy cat than a dog though
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@taniwharugby said in Dogs and bitches:
I struck a deal
You don't sound French...
Given that I actually get on so well the little critter, I got no leverage at all.
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I know I would love any dog we got to death and we would be best mates
But I also know who would have to do all the work
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@mariner4life said in Dogs and bitches:
I know I would love any dog we got to death and we would be best mates
But I also know who would have to do all the work
It's worth it.
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@Snowy said in Dogs and bitches:
@MajorRage said in Dogs and bitches:
@Snowy read that before you amended that ... was wondering what sort of sick twisted conversation I had got involved with .
Ha. Didn't read well did it.
Before anyone asks - I could have had an 8 month old staff member, that pissed with excitement.
That spoke well enough to greet. Or had been hired 8 months prior to stopping greeting you excitedly and wetting the...floor?
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@sparky said in Dogs and bitches:
Walking the dog three times was the highlight of my day today.
Even when the All Blacks play like turd and get knocked out of the World Cup, your dog is there for you wagging its tail.
Yep, lock your wife and dog in the garage and go to work. Guess which ones going to be happy to see you when you come home?
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Going to resurrect this thread.
I thought the dog training had gone quite well. She sits, stays, lies down, shakes hands, etc and usually will respond when called (the only girl that has ever done any of that for me) - until today.
I was getting some water down to the hen house with an old farm pipe from years ago that runs down our boundary, and was repairing a break, dog was with me as always. Neighbour's alpacas all decide to watch, then they see the dog and start doing this hyperventilating noise that they do as a warning / panic thing. This pisses the dog off who then manages to slip her collar and chases them. Would not respond to any instruction the little bitch. There is no point in me trying to catch her - I followed her in the car the other day doing over 30kph (GPS) up the driveway, she left me behind.
As for the alpacas, I was amazed how she separated an old weak one with a shonky knee and had it pinned in a corner. Dog was knackered by then and I caught her, she is now locked up.
Anyone got any experience, words of advice to prevent her chasing stock? I suppose just more exposure with her on the lead, and a sharp tug if she goes at them?
A couple of proud moments from the last year. Her first mouse was about six months ago, one chomp, no mouse. Her first rabbit about 4 months ago, a few flicks of her head dead bunny. She understands the words bunny and mousie (wife did that bit of training), and if you say them she will start hunting, unfortunately I hadn't taught her alpaca...
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@Snowy are the alpacas yours mate? Only ask because in rural Aus here, that dog can be destroyed on the stock owner's whim if caught on another's property.
Was always that way in nz growing up but maybe changed now.
Edit, sorry, " neighbours".
Just wondering about the severity of your little rodeo dog's actions is all. Hopefully not severe
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@Siam Pretty sure that she could still be shot (or destroyed later) if caught harassing stock (even though she couldn't actually kill one other than heart attack or chase them off a cliff). So I need to stop the behaviour. My neighbour is cool, but not everybody is.
She is fine around the chooks, was taught that from day one. In the last month or two has also been chilled around the cat, but again was told that the cat was "pack" from the start.
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@Snowy cool. Good neighbour.
Maybe recreate the scenario and when she takes an interest chasing animals again, chuck a "discipline spazz". That one where you use tone of voice and scare tactics. Sounds like a behaviour that will be stressful for you guys in the long run, so needs some attention.Whenever the little buggers race away and don't respond to calling, the feeling of uselessness is all encompassing, and embarrassingly dragging our old carcasses after them is a display of futility eh?😁
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New to this thread as we have had a dog free house since God was a boy. However January last year we got Ms Cato No1 a Black Lab puppy and the subsequent 12 months have been interesting. He was a delightful little feller until he decided not to be and then was a complete little shite. Upshot was we took him to a guy that breeds and trains gun dogs for a once a week lesson. The important thing to realise here is that the lesson was not for him, it was for us. He emphasised that training is an ongoing thing and it is constant. There is no on/off switch. For sure you can have down time with the mutt for play and what have you but this HAS to be on your terms. It has taken a long time, maybe 6 months to get the (now not so) little bastard to be almost where we want him. The hardest part was getting him to walk to heel to the satisfaction of Nigel the gun dog man. His view was that if the dog's snout is ahead of your front foot then (said in broad Devon accent) "Him be taking the fucking piss." This meant that walking the dog was quite a trial for a long time with much yanking on the lead and loud commands but now he's pretty much there.
Recall was also difficult and we required a shock treatment for him. At one time it was suggested that a shock collar might be the thing but we were naturally very reluctant to try this. What eventually worked was a tin with a few stones in it. The dog really didn't like that noise at all and together with the appropriate command stops him in his tracks. This though needed to be trained in to him in a controlled space but now we can take him on the beach or to the moors and his recall is bloody good, even around other dogs and livestock (on the moor where they roam free). Don't get me wrong, he still has his moments but when he does, the walk or trip is cut short immediately so there are consequences and oddly enough that seems to work too.
He's just over a year old now and all is pretty good. He sits down, lays down, waits when told and recalls pretty well. He will not eat until told to; the other day I put his food down, got him to sit and wait and then went to the bathroom. He was still sitting there waiting on my return, albeit with two small pools of drool under his chops.
So in terms of what we have learned, first thing is to ensure you're in a controlled environment. Demonstrate what you want him to do and enforce this with a command - ie make the fucker sit and then say the command. Do it enough and it is ingrained. Be patient in realising that it will take time and there will often be two steps forward and one back. Stop any walk/play what have you if the response is not satisfactory. Have a shock tactic if needs be but use it sparingly. Lastly use tone in your commands, they do not understand English too well.