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As I've already said, the 'story' behind Peak Engineerings flag is excellent, it is just a shit flag.<br><br>
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Ffs, give it a rest you ridiculous fanatics.
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<p>Evidence the All Blacks support Red Peak</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Rancid Schnitzel" data-cid="523407" data-time="1443905452"><p>Ffs, give it a rest you ridiculous fanatics.</p></blockquote>
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Get fucked, I made one post, that concisely makes valid arguments. Guess I should I read this entire thread first and read the vitriol.<br><br>
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<p>Get fucked, I made one post, that concisely makes valid arguments. Guess I should I read this entire thread first and read the vitriol.<br><br>
New Zealand is fucked, glad I don't live there any more. Good luck to you all.</p>
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<p>Concise??? If that is concise I would hate to see the long version.</p>
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<p>I read it.... and it seemed like a bunch of opinion masqueraded as some sort of fact. It was not .. it was just designer wank speak.</p>
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<p>I don't give a flying fuck if it supposedly uses 'pure design', I don't give a fuck if some piston wristed gibbon thinks it 'doesn't' play nice, or doesn't 'look like a flag'. I don't mind other people preferring it, I do mind pretentious twunts just making up bullshit and parading it as some sort of superior argument.</p>
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<p>I am glad you dont live here anymore either, we have enough pretentious lecturing twats already.</p> -
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<p>The key point for me is this</p>
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<strong>5 Does it create stories?</strong>
<p>I wrote <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://medium.com/@simon.momento/a-visual-designer-s-perspective-on-selecting-nzs-next-flag-804784d0e9a1'>previously</a> about how we must first create the object, before we can tell the story. In this way, I’ve observed Red Peak slowly coming to life. All manner of art and personal creations have sprung into being. The design has left room for interpretation, which in turn has allowed individuals to create their own narrative.</p>
<p>People want to be involved. They want to share their vision. They want to tell their story. Seeing individuals find their own story in Red Peak, is its most compelling argument for acceptance.</p>
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<p>We just want something that wont look naff when it flies from our flag poles. I dont give a fuck about 'creating stories'.</p>
<p>Also i dont want New Zealand to be confused with an engineering firm from Seattle.</p>
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<p>So we want change to stop being confused with the Aussie flag, to a flag that looks like a small engineering company's logo....</p> -
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<p>I hate red peak. It's shit bland and boring.</p>
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Concise??? If that is concise I would hate to see the long version.<br><br>
I read it.... and it seemed like a bunch of opinion masqueraded as some sort of fact. It was not .. it was just designer **** speak.<br><br>
I don't give a flying fuck if it supposedly uses 'pure design', I don't give a fuck if some piston wristed gibbon thinks it 'doesn't' play nice, or doesn't 'look like a flag'. I don't mind other people preferring it, I do mind pretentious twunts just making up bullshit and parading it as some sort of superior argument.<br><br>
I am glad you dont live here anymore either, we have enough pretentious lecturing twats already.</p></blockquote>
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What he said. In case you didn't notice, this "argument" has been repeated ad nauseam for about 10 pages now. England has a better chance of winning the world cup than Red Peak has of becoming our flag. Get over it. -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Quo vadis" data-cid="523574" data-time="1443920764"><p>Get fucked, I made one post, that concisely makes valid arguments. Guess I should I read this entire thread first and read the vitriol.<br>
New Zealand is fucked, glad I don't live there any more. Good luck to you all.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Evidence the All Blacks support Red Peak</p>
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<p>Winger I clicked on like by mistake instead of quote. I don't know how to unlike it but don't take that as any sort of endorsement of the idiocy of the red peak loons.</p> -
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<p>Every time I read done piston wristed gibbony about red peak I grow more attached to the flag we have now. The feeling doubles when it's a leftard doing the piston wristed gibbony. Make the Aussies change theirs.</p>
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<p>I sure you are deep down slowly being won over jeega. At you know a subconscious level</p>
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<p>Winger I clicked on like by mistake instead of quote. I don't know how to unlike it but don't take that as any sort of endorsement of the idiocy of the red peak loons.</p>
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<p>We just want something that wont look naff when it flies from our flag poles. I dont give a fuck about 'creating stories'.</p>
<p>Also i dont want New Zealand to be confused with <span style="color:#ff0000;">an engineering firm from Seattle.</span></p>
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<p>See how it works Virgil. You are already 'creating a story' about Red Peak.</p>
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<p>Not a story that I would create but everyone's different. And that's choice</p>
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<p>Whereas it impossible to do this with the other flags</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">We’re (Virgil is) beginning to find our (his) voice and discover our (his) story. Let this visual designer nudge you in the right direction. Give it a chance and you’re bound to find your story in Red Peak too.
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<p>I sure you will be 'over the moon' with section 4 too</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote"> 4 Does it use pure design?
<p>There’s only one flag in our selection that uses the principles of design to achieve balance and harmony. The others use visual language more at home on a logo — Potentially, a logo for cheaply made ‘New Zealand’ goods. As a design professional, they appear crass and poorly thought out. It’s a children’s picture book approach, (oh look a fern!), when we should have moved on to <span style="color:#ff0000;">adult fiction and metaphors.</span></p>
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<p>Someone please send for a doctor, it's my sides . I appear to have split them laughing at Wingers witticisms .</p>
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<p> <br> :hi: I don't know why some seem to get so serious about this though (not on here). It's just a flag. Although I want one I like as I think the current flag is shit<br>
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But the other 4 are even worse<br>
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There is some good stuff coming out of this debate though</p>
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A triangle doesnt tell a story.<br><br>
My preferred flag tells a story about an emblem that is inherently New Zealand. It says to me New Zealand is proud of our environment as represented by that emblem. And that we live in a part of the world where we can view the Southern Cross.<br><br>
I like it. It is not bland. It is not boring.<br><br>
The teiangle does not tell anyone anything about New Zeaand. It says "triangle".<br><br>
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<p>what if NZ change to one of the other options, will Aussie retain their current flag for a long time after?</p>
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<p>nah they can have red peak.</p>
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<p>represents Ayers Rock nicely I reckon.</p>
