Tasman v Auckland
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@Hooroo said in Ta$man v Auckland:
@shark said in Auckland Rugby 2019:
Auckland vs Ta$man tomorrow night should be a belter; can't wait.
Then Auckland have a resurgent Southland (ok the resurgence may not last beyond 9.15pm tonight after they play Taranaki), and Taranaki away to finish.
Auckland at the moment sit forth, three points clear of Harbour and Waikato. A loss to Ta$man could well see them leap-frogged by one if not both of those sides, but they have a realtively soft last fortnight.
If Waikato can't beat a rubbish Hawkes Bay team then they won't be doing any leapfrogging
Thanks for reminding me of our glorious win on your home turf!
But, I am worried, who from Hawkes Bay hurt you? I haven't seen this much hatred towards another team since @shark went on his war with the Chiefs.
@Chris-B I wonder why Taufua didn't have an out clause in his contract (NZR and the Ta$man Invitational XV) to go and play in the RWC? He must have known he was on the outer with the ABs this year and now that he's heading up north I assume he'll play for Samoa? (IIRC he hasn't played 7s for NZ?)
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@Nepia said in Ta$man v Auckland:
@Hooroo said in Ta$man v Auckland:
@shark said in Auckland Rugby 2019:
Auckland vs Ta$man tomorrow night should be a belter; can't wait.
Then Auckland have a resurgent Southland (ok the resurgence may not last beyond 9.15pm tonight after they play Taranaki), and Taranaki away to finish.
Auckland at the moment sit forth, three points clear of Harbour and Waikato. A loss to Ta$man could well see them leap-frogged by one if not both of those sides, but they have a realtively soft last fortnight.
If Waikato can't beat a rubbish Hawkes Bay team then they won't be doing any leapfrogging
Thanks for reminding me of our glorious win on your home turf!
But, I am worried, who from Hawkes Bay hurt you? I haven't seen this much hatred towards another team since @shark went on his war with the Chiefs.
@Chris-B I wonder why Taufua didn't have an out clause in his contract (NZR and the Ta$man Invitational XV) to go and play in the RWC? He must have known he was on the outer with the ABs this year and now that he's heading up north I assume he'll play for Samoa? (IIRC he hasn't played 7s for NZ?)
No, I quite like them as a team. I just class Hawkes bay in with Southland, Northland and Manawatu as the rubbish clubs. It's a legacy thing. The top flight embarrassments, if you will
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@Hooroo said in Ta$man v Auckland:
@Nepia said in Ta$man v Auckland:
@Hooroo said in Ta$man v Auckland:
@shark said in Auckland Rugby 2019:
Auckland vs Ta$man tomorrow night should be a belter; can't wait.
Then Auckland have a resurgent Southland (ok the resurgence may not last beyond 9.15pm tonight after they play Taranaki), and Taranaki away to finish.
Auckland at the moment sit forth, three points clear of Harbour and Waikato. A loss to Ta$man could well see them leap-frogged by one if not both of those sides, but they have a realtively soft last fortnight.
If Waikato can't beat a rubbish Hawkes Bay team then they won't be doing any leapfrogging
Thanks for reminding me of our glorious win on your home turf!
But, I am worried, who from Hawkes Bay hurt you? I haven't seen this much hatred towards another team since @shark went on his war with the Chiefs.
@Chris-B I wonder why Taufua didn't have an out clause in his contract (NZR and the Ta$man Invitational XV) to go and play in the RWC? He must have known he was on the outer with the ABs this year and now that he's heading up north I assume he'll play for Samoa? (IIRC he hasn't played 7s for NZ?)
No, I quite like them as a team. I just class Hawkes bay in with Southland, Northland and Manawatu as the rubbish clubs. It's a legacy thing. The top flight embarrassments, if you will
Ok, now I'm angry, you've lumped us in with that lot? You're on my list mofo - vendetta, utu, revenge, balance in the force, whatever you want to call it, my wraith is coming.
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@Hooroo said in Ta$man v Auckland:
Southland, Northland and Manawatu as the rubbish clubs
I aint taking offence to you calling my team rubbish, but your soccer fanboism is showing through calling us a club...we are a rubbish province, get it right pal!
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@taniwharugby said in Ta$man v Auckland:
@Hooroo said in Ta$man v Auckland:
Southland, Northland and Manawatu as the rubbish clubs
I aint taking offence to you calling my team rubbish, but your soccer fanboism is showing through calling us a club...we are a rubbish province, get it right pal!
I missed that through the red mist. Hate that creeping into SH rugby, Sky and NZR can suck a dick for bringing that in.
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@Nepia said in Ta$man v Auckland:
@Chris-B I wonder why Taufua didn't have an out clause in his contract (NZR and the Ta$man Invitational XV) to go and play in the RWC? He must have known he was on the outer with the ABs this year and now that he's heading up north I assume he'll play for Samoa? (IIRC he hasn't played 7s for NZ?)
Don't know.
Maybe he just thinks he's a New Zealander.
He might not be that far away from an AB call up right now if we lost another loose forward. PapaliÃ, Hemopo and Fifita all still injured? I'm not convinced Squire is ready. Can't be many in the queue ahead of him for blindside/8.
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@Nepia I put Waikato in as one of the biggest under achievers when you consider their history and talent at their disposal..
Manawatu and Southland don’t have a lot of clubs to choose from, as for Northland, we lose the cream of our very best school boy rugby players mostly to Auckland secondary schools..ironically ,the Turbos ,the Taniwha and the stags especially have the lowest budget of any of the unions..and when I am talking low, in the case of Southland ,I believe it’s under 300k..the other problem is once they have many injuries.the depth bites big time ..Can remember Hawkes Bay struggling a couple of seasons back when they had a ton of injuries ,it happens... -
@Chris-B said in Ta$man v Auckland:
@Nepia said in Ta$man v Auckland:
@Chris-B I wonder why Taufua didn't have an out clause in his contract (NZR and the Ta$man Invitational XV) to go and play in the RWC? He must have known he was on the outer with the ABs this year and now that he's heading up north I assume he'll play for Samoa? (IIRC he hasn't played 7s for NZ?)
Don't know.
Maybe he just thinks he's a New Zealander.
He might not be that far away from an AB call up right now if we lost another loose forward. PapaliÃ, Hemopo and Fifita all still injured. I'm not convinced Squire is ready. Can't be many in the queue ahead of him for blindside/8.
You've just named 4 not to mention the other 3 already with the squad.
But true, maybe he does just consider himself a Kiwi, pop over to his house and ask? Or does he FIFO?
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@Hooroo said in Ta$man v Auckland:
No, I quite like them as a team. I just class Hawkes bay in with Southland, Northland and Manawatu as the rubbish clubs. It's a legacy thing. The top flight embarrassments, if you will
Manawatu have at least won an NPC title, even if it was back in 1980.
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@Chris-B said in Ta$man v Auckland:
@Cantab79 said in Ta$man v Auckland:
That Ta$man teams looks Super Rugby strength, and will be almost impossible to beat for the title this year. They will need to choke to give anyone else a chance of winning, or suffer some serious injury setbacks.
Their depth across the park is brilliant. As a Canterbury fan I wonder how so many of the Crusaders' players have been allowed to drift north for the Mitre 10 Cup? In saying that I will be very happy for them if they do win this year and bring the Mitre 10 Cup back to the Crusaders region.
At full strength Ta$man is pretty strong, but far from bolted out of reach. A couple of injuries to key players and we're back in the pack.
Of the Crusaders players, Crockett, Strange, Blackadder, Hunt, Faingaanuku and Havili are all products of Nelson College. Pretty sure Taufua (loaned from Canterbury), Jordan, Perry and Makalio all made their NPC debuts for Ta$man (as, I'm pretty sure did Lomax, Parkinson, Squire, Christie, Nankivell, Aumua, Roach, Uchida, and Paea). Salmon and Tima are also Nelson College products - the Moli bros are Marlborough College products.
I think Will Jordan is the significant miss by Canterbury. I doubt Nankivell or Christie would have been close to making the Canterbury team when Ta$man signed them.
Yep, I was gonna poke holes in Cantab79's post as well. Jordan is the only Crusader from Canterbury originally now at Ta$man, of concern. The other Ta$man Crusaders are either from the Ta$man region or Ta$man (not Canterbury) buy-ins, or off-casts who've come good.
In general though there have been quite a few high profile guys over the last few years who've somehow escaped from the camp, when you add Jordan to ALB, Alaimalo, Lentjes, Retallick and D McKenzie (yes I know, only one year at CC, but he was still in the system and escaped).
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