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  • boobooB Offline
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    On viewing of the video it does look like there is connection with the back of the guy's head.

    But it WAS below the level of the knees.

    The guy was basically crawling.

    fluffybunnies got to stop hating us coz we're beautiful.

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    @MajorRage said in RWC: Speculation About Read Being Cited:

    There is a small twitterati campagin to suggest he targeted and hit the head and neck of the bloke behind the ball carrier (from the view of the camera).

    If he can do that, then he is even more talented than I have given him credit for in the past.

    Laughable.

    But, look on the bright side. If everyone (and by that I just mean the rabid rabbits on social media and well-known outrage-scribes) are still what-abouting the All Blacks, then clearly you're still the most feared rugby team around.

    Accept the compliment.

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    Book him. 6 weeks. No reductions.

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    @NTA said in RWC: Speculation About Read Being Cited:

    Book him. 6 weeks. No reductions.

    Ruthless, menacing and callous - even down to targeting two blokes, makes it worth at least twice as much as any other citing.

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    @Bones said in RWC: Speculation About Read Being Cited:

    @NTA said in RWC: Speculation About Read Being Cited:

    Book him. 6 weeks. No reductions.

    Ruthless, menacing and callous - even down to targeting two blokes, makes it worth at least twice as much as any other citing.

    TWELVE WEEKS!!!

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    I think the real story here is the increasing weaponisation of social media to build pressure on individual players and teams - a trend which is amplified by an increasingly desperate media now dependent on calculated outrage and a click-driven business model. Notice how there are no actual quoted sources in the story. It’s a thumb-sucker. To quote Orange Man, it’s fake news.

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    Not too smart by the AB captain considering what has gone on at this tournament. He seems to have be taking the phrase "use your head" too literally. Arms please fella.

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    @MrDenmore And amplified by being pasted on forums and producing more clicks? πŸ˜ƒ

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    @MrDenmore said in RWC: Speculation About Read Being Cited:

    I think the real story here is the increasing weaponisation of social media to build pressure on individual players and teams - a trend which is amplified by an increasingly desperate media now dependent on calculated outrage and a click-driven business model. Notice how there are no actual quoted sources in the story. It’s a thumb-sucker. To quote Orange Man, it’s fake news.

    Can I upvote twice?

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    @KiwiMurph said in RWC: Speculation About Read Being Cited:

    Not too smart by the AB captain considering what has gone on at this tournament. He seems to have be taking the phrase "use your head" too literally. Arms please fella.

    There is a level of bullshit here though

    The impact was less than 12 inches above the turf.

    Non issue.

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    It's a strange one. Whilst there is no doubt he gets low, it's hard to deny he doesn't attempt to use his arms in any way. It's certainly penalty worthy.

    The whole idea of an attacking player getting low is to make him harder to tackle. A defender doesn't just get to negate that by launching his shoulders at the attackers shins.

    Is it citing worthy? Nah, hard to go there as its not dangerous. But it's definitely not cricket.

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    If you're launching yourself at someone's knees without trying to tackle, that's dangerous play and should be penalised.

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    @antipodean said in RWC: Speculation About Read Being Cited:

    If you're launching yourself at someone's knees without trying to tackle, that's dangerous play and should be penalised.

    He was

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    @NTA if you watch Read carefully, you can see he is imagining the guy he is tackling is St David of the Pococks, which means 2 more weeks!

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    SO, does the citing window close 36 hours after the match. Which would mean 130ish NZT this afternoon (ie 4 hours away).

    Do I presume that since we haven't heard antying aside from frenzied media speculation, that no citings are likely?

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    @nzzp just the super rich NZR buying off officials again.

    Based on the point below (This must be within the agreed time frames of the competition) and the competition being the RWC and tighter turnarounds, the time frame would be less than say TRC or 6N?

    World Rugby Passport - Officiating

    Teams may bring alleged offences to the attention of the Citing Commissioner for review. This must be within the agreed time frames of the competition. The Citing Commissioner can request additional video footage from the broadcaster or the teams to assist with any investigation. They can also interview the victim and other witnesses and obtain medical reports and other evidence such as photographs of injuries.

    A citing complaint by a Citing Commissioner must usually be sent in writing to the nominated officer of the Host Union or Tournament Organiser responsible for the match in which the incident occurred. The timeframes for this can vary between games and tournaments. Ordinarily it is within a minimum of 12 hours and no later than a maximum of 48 hours post-match. In exceptional circumstances, an extension of time can be granted on application to the Judicial Officer appointed to the match.

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    @taniwharugby 36 hours, on p3 of the document I found

    Edit: 12 hours for team referral, 36 hours for citing commissioner, hearing within 48 hours. Fast justice πŸ™‚

    https://pulse-static-files.s3.amazonaws.com/worldrugby/document/2019/09/12/477e8916-642f-4ebf-8a4e-6c3cc702c19b/RWC-2019-Disciplinary-process.pdf
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    Mitigating circumstances?
    Olmstead is offside and obstructing Read's arm from wrapping. Read readies his arm to swing around but is blocked from doing so.

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    @Crucial said in RWC: Speculation About Read Being Cited:

    Mitigating circumstances?
    Olmstead is offside and obstructing Read's arm from wrapping. Read readies his arm to swing around but is blocked from doing so.

    I think it's OK - only if it reaches the red card threshold, and only if the citing commissioner decides to cite before 1-130 this afternoon NZT. Pretty sure it won't happen πŸ™‚

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    @nzzp said in RWC: Speculation About Read Being Cited:

    @Crucial said in RWC: Speculation About Read Being Cited:

    Mitigating circumstances?
    Olmstead is offside and obstructing Read's arm from wrapping. Read readies his arm to swing around but is blocked from doing so.

    I think it's OK - only if it reaches the red card threshold, and only if the citing commissioner decides to cite before 1-130 this afternoon NZT. Pretty sure it won't happen πŸ™‚

    One thing it showed is that McCaw forgot to pass the invisibility cloak on with the captaincy.

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