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@rotated said in US Politics:
Fair play on the Zucker recording, but filming rank and file employees casually bitching about their job seems a bit gross.
I am a big fan on Project Veritas, but I agree with the rank and file thing. Is the destruction these guys lives (slightly hyperbolic) really worth it?
Smells a but like what CNN does to Trump supporters.
As for Zucker he is a prize twunt and deserves the exposure.CNN is a PR company for the democrats.
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The story about the cop shooting the woman just sitting on her bed sounded a bit off when it first came out . Vice are saying she pointed a gun at the cop first
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@jegga I think the timeline was pretty compressed to lay it on her pointing her gun first - given the cops didn't announce themselves how is she to know who the F is coming through her window. We'll never know if she saw a gun or worked out they were cops given she had a light shining in her eyes.
I get the cops might not want to alert an intruder (esp an armed one) when following up a situation like this, but it seems this scenario was just destined for death. Especially as she was a legit gun owner who was looking to defend herself and nephew. If she'd fired first I presume she'd have been cleared as there was no identification?
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@Paekakboyz agree with that , the neighbor who must feel terrible right now rang the cops number that isn’t for emergencies when she saw the front door left open .
What happened was caught on the cops bodycam apparently. When I first heard the story it sounded like one of those awful stories like the kid with the toy gun being shot by the cops . This sounds more like a tragic misunderstanding than a racist cop killing a black person . -
@jegga ugh, so true, I hadn't thought about that side of it. I know I'd want my neighbour to help out if they saw something dodgy... but maybe contact me before the cops! but that is a slippery slope of what if's etc.
100% agree that it's a tragic accident - but I guess the murder charge comes down to not following due process? It feels horrible to say it given someone has lost their life, a young person has seen a family member killed, and a cop is likely going to jail... but this is an edge case (or I bloody hope it is!) for a country where you can carry guns and the police are super cautious about perps having weapons.
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@Rembrandt said in US Politics:
Actual transparency there.
The letter was leaked to the media (Fox business and the NYT)
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What actually happens with these letters? Assume they are not actually posted. If so, do they pay extra for tracking?
Or are they just emailed? From a POTUS account or an official White House a/c? Is POTUS allowed to send an email with that sort of content or does it have to be a letter?
Maybe they are faxed still!
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@reprobate said in US Politics:
@Rembrandt You seriously see that letter as a positive? I genuinely thought it was satire.
I do. I havent seen any other letters from world leaders to each other, but that one is pretty clear and plainly spoken.
Some might think it isnt presidential enough, but I think ppoliticians are generally forked tongue dishonest fuckwits.. so I am not sure about this obsession for being more like them -
@voodoo said in US Politics:
What actually happens with these letters? Assume they are not actually posted. If so, do they pay extra for tracking?
Or are they just emailed? From a POTUS account or an official White House a/c? Is POTUS allowed to send an email with that sort of content or does it have to be a letter?
Maybe they are faxed still!
Well duh.. they are obviously leaked to the NYT and everyone knows Edrogen is a subscriber.
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@reprobate I thought it was very non-typical of what I would expect a presidential letter to be. On balance I think it is positive, clearly a plain straight talking politician resonates with many sick of the ultra slick double talk status quo.
If I were to put my Trump 4D chess hat on I'd say perhaps this 'leaked' only so msm would report on it thinking it a win to mock Trump (which they have, hell it was even on the advertising board of the elevator up to my floor this morning)..and in turn exposing more people to his exact words. Some will continue to think him a fool and continue to underestimate him, some will think "hang-on he actually seems like a normal bloke that I can identify with".
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Some people at my work (a non-representative sample to be sure) dislike Trump because he doesn't "speak well". That he doesn't act with enough subtlety. Therefore, he is an "idiot".
They loved Obama because he spoke well and acted the part. Very shallow reason - imo.
I think they don't know the difference between being street smart and book smart.
I prefer a grimy barbarian who understands the street level thinking of many other world leaders (China, Turkey, Russia) far, far, far better than some pontificating, slick elitist any day of the week.
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@Rembrandt said in US Politics:
I'd say perhaps this 'leaked' only so msm would report on it thinking it a win to mock Trump
It was leaked to friendly, insignificant, but obedient media. Much like Obama used to leak exclusives as favours. That's not transparent. Thats the same old grubbiness.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in US Politics:
@reprobate said in US Politics:
@Rembrandt You seriously see that letter as a positive? I genuinely thought it was satire.
I do. I havent seen any other letters from world leaders to each other, but that one is pretty clear and plainly spoken.
Some might think it isnt presidential enough, but I think ppoliticians are generally forked tongue dishonest fuckwits.. so I am not sure about this obsession for being more like themTrump is pretty glaringly dishonest, and pretty much anyone with a reasonable education could write a clear straightforward letter without it sounding like they are of limited mental capacity. Surprised it didn't mention his 'great and unmatched wisdom' or whatever that tweet was.
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@reprobate Dishonesty is comparative, compared to most folk on the street yeah I'd say he's dishonest, compared to other politicians maybe less so.
Certainly he exaggerates for effect much like the tweet you referenced. From what I can tell these exaggerations serve 2 purposes.
- Attention and coverage which served him incredibly well to get elected
- Claiming ground in a deal ie door-in-the-face technique
..actually maybe also 3) To drive some people insane, he is the master troll
What was that quote from a while back - "Trump haters takes him literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally". Fascinating guy nonetheless and proven many wrong.
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