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<p>Turns out the stupidity is spreading. Just went through the self-service checkout at Countdown to find the cover of the supposed NZ Journal of Natural Medicine staring straight at me - so unfortunately stupidity such as:</p>
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<p>- 'Heart disease, is a lack of Vitamin C the true cause'</p>
<p>- 'Colloidal silver - better and so much safer than antibiotics'</p>
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<p>... is spreading its "concentrated examples of quackery promotion*" into increasingly mainstream areas to scare the gullible.</p>
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<p>* great quote from: <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://sciblogs.co.nz/molecular-matters/2013/02/09/new-zealands-own-journal-of-natural-nuttiness/'>http://sciblogs.co.nz/molecular-matters/2013/02/09/new-zealands-own-journal-of-natural-nuttiness/</a></p>
<p>I didn't dare click on the Journal website itself to get the exact text of the headlines - the fewer clicks they get the better.</p>
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<p>But Big Corporations? Shill people, shill!</p>
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<p>Where do they get the $5.7 trillion earnings figure from???? </p>
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<p>$5.7 TRILLION. This is a fantasy figure.</p>
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<p>Just like the 97% of scientists agree figure.</p> -
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<p>Fantastic 10 minute interview with Radio NZ National's science correspondent this morning in which she outlines what constitutes scientific evidence - using great every day examples and basically debunks the latest health scare around cooking oils<br><br><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/201778272/science-commentator-siouxsie-wiles'>http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/201778272/science-commentator-siouxsie-wiles</a></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:18px;"><span style="color:rgb(255,0,0);"><strong>WINGER PLEASE LISTEN</strong></span></span></p>
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<p>The good stuff starts at 2:09 but basically she references the infographic below - with the examples.</p>
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<p>We seem to quote an awful lot of expert opinion - the lowest form of scientific evidence.</p>
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<p>Its well worth a listen for the everyday examples. From 8.22 she really climbs into the example of the cooking oil story - which appeared in the Telegraph last week. </p>
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<p>Very familiar story from a lot of threads on The Fern - "published academic" - not a lot of published material and in a totally different field. Turns out the "research" came from an episode of Trust Me I'm a Doctor. Nevertheless it made international news and is now spawning all manner of comment in tin-foil helmet circles<br>
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<p>When I have mentioned cooking oil???</p>
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<p>When I have mentioned cooking oil???</p>
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<p>But I will listen and report back</p>
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<p>sorry. <strong>I couldn't stand any more at about the 3 minute point</strong>. I tried</p>
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<p>Personally I thought her explanations were excellent , is her show a regular thing ?<br><br>
Winger what made you stop listening?</p>
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<p>the hands over his ears?</p>
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<p>Don't tell the NZ Journal of Natural Medicine - too many 'ingredients that a fifth grader can't pronounce'</p>
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<p>so a Kiwifruit gives more than 100%</p>
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<p>Summers almost here and we are going to have the usual spike in deaths from inhaling hydrogen dioxide, it's a worry that chemicals like that one are so freely available but are responsible for so much needless suffering.</p>
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<p>Hydrogen Dioxide?</p>
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<p>Assume you are talking about H2O? which would Dihydrogen Oxide (or Dihydrogen Monooxide if we want to be even more precise )</p> -
<p><span style="font-size:18px;"><span style="margin:0px;">Decoding the Mysterious Death of Jonah Lomu: An Alphanumerological Conspiracy </span></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:18px;"><span style="margin:0px;">(Part 1)</span></span></p>
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<p>"Either a blood sacrifice, or faked his own death."</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Winger" data-cid="540684" data-time="1447238821"><p>Where do they get the $5.7 trillion earnings figure from???? <br><br>
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<p>If you want to see evil in the pharmaceutical industry you could look at Big Pharm, or you coould look at guys like this</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Shkreli'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Shkreli</a></p> -
So confused about which thread this should go in, flag or conspiracy....<br><br>
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.3news.co.nz/tvshows/newsworthy/conspiracy-corner-has-the-flag-illuminati-rigged-the-referendum-2015112715#axzz3sYjeVZVj'>http://www.3news.co.nz/tvshows/newsworthy/conspiracy-corner-has-the-flag-illuminati-rigged-the-referendum-2015112715#axzz3sYjeVZVj</a>
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