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    @sparky said in Hansen:

    The weakness was his coaching. I don't think he did much to turn his players into better performing athletes. His side was never really the same after Wayne Smith left. In the end,his selection was found out too.

    As his assistants got weaker (with Smith moving on) he seemingly delegated more. Tough to keep a high performance environment when most player probably rate their super coaches higher than Foz & co.

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    @Tim said in Hansen:

    @shark I am 1000% correct and have been proven so by the continual losses against physical teams.

    Oh give yourself another pat on the back why don't you?!

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    @shark Yeah, I was saying it too during the game to my wife. Makes you realise how great our side was in the last WC.

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    @shark I am the oracle.

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    @Kirwan Absolutely. If you want to beat the best you have to select and coach the best whether they come ready to fit into your systems or not.

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    @Tim said in Hansen:

    @shark I am the oracle.

    If it helps you process the loss, then you can proclaim yourself to be Jesus if you like.

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    @rotated

    I'm blaming Foz. Razor should have gone with this squad to Japan as part of the coaching set-up.

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    Tell Rennie to come home instead of taking a Wallabies job that no Aussie wants him for.

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    In a way I've missed this post WC loss blood letting on the fern. Let it out lads, it was disappointing alright. Been a very long time since we've had to drown our sorrows like this.

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    @shark said in Hansen:

    Oh and by the way, this post 2015 team just isn't a patch on the previous side stacked with all-time greats. No-one could have done any better with the cattle available. Losing convincingly to a very good England side shouldn't be a major surprise to anyone given the patchy form shown throughout the 2016-19 era and the lesser standard of players available in general.

    Who was the coach throughout the 2016-2019 era before tonight?

    This side is no 2015 (and the fact the current team believes they are somehow related to them is probably 25% of the problem) - but two world class locks, experienced loose forward trio and decent skill position backs is more than enough to put together a RWC winner.

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    Hansen had the squad to win the WC, he was just out coached by Eddie, simple as that. Hansen is still a good coach and did plenty for NZ rugby. I’m putting a full stop on his era and looking forward to the next one.

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    @Tim said in Hansen:

    Steve Hansen inherited Graham Henry's once in a generation team. He did nothing with it.

    We've been poor for the past three years.

    Flat track bullies who were owned by Ireland and England.

    Like John Mitchell in 2003 he was out of ideas so he went with the hot Super Rugby team. And he selected a lot of duds. Bridge, Scott Barrett, Reece, Mounga. Discarded experience and selected mediocrity. Also like Mitchell he's an arrogant tool who likes to criticize players in public. I hope Ioane and Luatua are having some bitter laughs.

    I can sort of imagine you ejaculating as you write. Like you’ve been waiting for a loss so you can beat your little drum. Pathetic

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    @Billy-Tell I've been saying it for three years. His flaws are obvious.

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    @Billy-Tell said in Hansen:

    @Tim said in Hansen:

    Steve Hansen inherited Graham Henry's once in a generation team. He did nothing with it.

    We've been poor for the past three years.

    Flat track bullies who were owned by Ireland and England.

    Like John Mitchell in 2003 he was out of ideas so he went with the hot Super Rugby team. And he selected a lot of duds. Bridge, Scott Barrett, Reece, Mounga. Discarded experience and selected mediocrity. Also like Mitchell he's an arrogant tool who likes to criticize players in public. I hope Ioane and Luatua are having some bitter laughs.

    I can sort of imagine you ejaculating as you write. Like you’ve been waiting for a loss so you can beat your little drum. Pathetic

    Rubbish, he and others have been worried about this all year. Nobodies happy we lost, but we are frustrated at the predictability of it

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    @Kirwan Exactly. And dropping Ioane and Cane was really aggravating.

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    @Kirwan said in Hansen:

    @Billy-Tell said in Hansen:

    @Tim said in Hansen:

    Steve Hansen inherited Graham Henry's once in a generation team. He did nothing with it.

    We've been poor for the past three years.

    Flat track bullies who were owned by Ireland and England.

    Like John Mitchell in 2003 he was out of ideas so he went with the hot Super Rugby team. And he selected a lot of duds. Bridge, Scott Barrett, Reece, Mounga. Discarded experience and selected mediocrity. Also like Mitchell he's an arrogant tool who likes to criticize players in public. I hope Ioane and Luatua are having some bitter laughs.

    I can sort of imagine you ejaculating as you write. Like you’ve been waiting for a loss so you can beat your little drum. Pathetic

    Rubbish, he and others have been worried about this all year. Nobodies happy we lost, but we are frustrated at the predictability of it

    Ah the wise in hindsight brigade. Post me your pre match predictions...or no one will believe you.

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    Remember when he picked an injured Squire ahead of Luatua for the squad that couldn't beat the Lions?

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    @Tim said in Hansen:

    @Kirwan Exactly. And dropping Ioane and Cane was really aggravating.

    Every 50/50 selection call had a Crusader bias too.

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    @Billy-Tell I picked NZ to lose this tournament.

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    @chimoaus said in Hansen:

    Hansen had the squad to win the WC, he was just out coached by Eddie, simple as that. Hansen is still a good coach and did plenty for NZ rugby. I’m putting a full stop on his era and looking forward to the next one.

    This is the frustration of it all. If we had to play again next week I would back us to adjust and win semi-comfortably.

    What has become predictable is the requirement for wake up call after wake up call...

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