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    Rennie with Wayne Smith and Tony Brown is a bit of dream team for me. The problem is we don’t have a world class defensive coach available - I doubt that Smith would take it.

    And, to the best of my knowledge Robertson is not a defensive specialist; nor Joseph, plus I assume that both would only be keen on a head coaching role.

    So, could we go outside to get a D specialist or reinvest in McLeod and try to get a coach for him (e.g., Wayne Smith)?

    Our defense was a fucking mess last week so I’m tempted to boot him, despite Stormy being one of my all time favorite players.

    Apart from Farrell, who we can’t get anyway, who else would be a defensive specialist we could bring in?

    I’d also be tempted to get a better kicking/skills coach again - I feel like our kicking has gone downhill since we lost Mick.

    For the scrum, IFIIK. what are the fern’s thoughts?

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    We leaked some points when Smith was the defence coach too (e.g., 40 pts to Ireland in Chicago) so I wouldn't draw too many conclusions based on only the England game.

    I think the most important position will be the forwards coach in the new coaching group. I don't think we progressed under Cron in recent years, and usually when the ABs have lost it's been because we have been dominated up front.

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    @Bovidae

    That’s a good point. Cron seemed a strange promotion.

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    @Unite said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    @Bovidae said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    Recent comments from Rennie:

    “Probably the easiest way to clarify this is that I know there’s lots of speculation in the media that I’ve already signed [a contract with Australia] and people have been informed and all this sort of stuff,” he said. "That’s not accurate. I haven’t signed, and I will definitely be here till the end of this season, which is the end of June (2020).

    “I’ll just reiterate: regardless of what happens to me beyond this season, I’m here for the full season. It’s important to me. I’m committed to the Warriors and I won’t leave earlier.” Asked whether he would be interested in coaching the Wallabies, Rennie said he would jump at the chance. "Yeah, I think we’ve discussed this before, so yeah, absolutely," he said. "I guess what I’m implying is there’s lots of talk about this and I’m already committed [to Glasgow], you know. There’s a lot of speculation, as there has been for months.”

    So there appears to be no reason why he couldn't throw his name into the hat for the ABs.

    Fox Sports reporting that the NZRU are circling, take that with a grain of salt though

    Heard "they have sounded out Eddie Jones" too.

    I'm thinking they have advised all the potential candidates they can think of.

    That grows into "circling", "sounding out" etc

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    The Japan RU has offered JJ more than the double of his current earnings to keep his job. I don't think the NZRFU could make such a high financial proposal.

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    @booboo said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    @Higgins said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    @sparky Why would you pick players that still need coaching in rugby skills? They are All Blacks so you would expect them to have those bases covered before getting selected thus no need to have a Specialist Coach Skills apointee.

    So you recall Muck Byrne?

    Didn't seem to do much for the Wallaby's kicking skills...

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    @antipodean yet ours deteriorated after his departure 🤷♂

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    @taniwharugby @antipodean TBF, the kicking coach can't have much impact if the team is instructed not to kick by the coach.

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    He's a 'Skills coach' now too I think - similar to Cron, he wanted a better position, and similar to Cron wasn't prepared to go and earn it with a Super team first. We let Mick go but promoted Cron..

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    @taniwharugby said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    @antipodean yet ours deteriorated after his departure 🤷♂

    Correlated with a number of players retiring who were good kickers.

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    @gt12 said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    He's a 'Skills coach' now too I think - similar to Cron, he wanted a better position, and similar to Cron wasn't prepared to go and earn it with a Super team first. We let Mick go but promoted Cron..

    This is what I don't understand. Obviously I'm not in the environment, but it's a reasonable question to ask where you demonstrated a capability to be the coach with a broader portfolio.

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    @antipodean said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    @gt12 said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    He's a 'Skills coach' now too I think - similar to Cron, he wanted a better position, and similar to Cron wasn't prepared to go and earn it with a Super team first. We let Mick go but promoted Cron..

    This is what I don't understand. Obviously I'm not in the environment, but it's a reasonable question to ask where you demonstrated a capability to be the coach with a broader portfolio.

    I agree completely.

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    @antipodean dunno, Aaron Smith been around most of that time, and his kicking has ranged form sublime to WTF.

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    @taniwharugby said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    @antipodean dunno, Aaron Smith been around most of that time, and his kicking has ranged form sublime to WTF.

    Sometimes in the one match. His kicking was pretty good against Ireland in the QF from memory.

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    @antipodean for the first time in a very long time...

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    Whats also of interest to me is if the support staff will be kept on/want to stay on. Physio/S and C/Dietician/manager etc. A lot have been with the team since GH early days.

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    @Magpie_in_aus the link I posted above indicated the new guy comes in with his full team, but you'd think some of them like Gill, Enoka would simply stay with whoever takes over?

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    One New Zealand Rugby board member in the loop is said to have been very excited by the level of support Foster has assembled, while another source indicated it was an "impressive" group.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/117061739/all-blacks-coaching-vacancy-has-ian-foster-formed-dream-team-for-tilt-at-top-job

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    Foster could be assisted by Bruce Banner (forwards), Tony Stark (backs) and Steve Rogers (motivation & leadership) and i would still despair

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    @mariner4life I'm glad you didn't mention Thor. We don't want any Aussie assistant coaches.

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