European Club Rugby
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@Stargazer said in NH club rugby:
@Machpants Taufua had a great game, yesterday. Very dominant in that Tigers' pack, interestingly, playing in the 7 jersey.
He was voted Fans' Player of the Match.
He's finally playing openside?
Damn, that's a rough red on Smith, fair enough give him a yellow for being careless but it was hardly a deliberate act aiming to maim an opposition player and therefore worthy of a red.
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@Toddy said in NH club rugby:
@Stargazer https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/118403997/former-all-black-ben-smith-sent-off-on-debut-for-pau-in-french-top-14
Yes, that's a RC. Too many players fending away from their body with a forearm. If you're going to do that above someone's shoulders, you have to accept responsibility.
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it looked part bracing for the hit and part fend...I can see why the red was issued, but reckon YC would have been sufficient.
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If a defender comes in that high and close to you, it is reflex to raise an arm. It's going to be tough to stop those cards as players aren't doing it deliberately and red cards are unlikely to prevent them doing it. The tackler has to go lower to avoid an impact like that. Yes I know the onus is on Smith to avoid that sort of contact but it is pretty harsh.
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@Snowy said in NH club rugby:
If a defender comes in that high and close to you, it is reflex to raise an arm. It's going to be tough to stop those cards as players aren't doing it deliberately and red cards are unlikely to prevent them doing it. The tackler has to go lower to avoid an impact like that. Yes I know the onus is on Smith to avoid that sort of contact but it is pretty harsh
It pains me to say it. But I agree with Hooper here. Why is Smith being penalised to compensate for someone's awful tackle technique.
If a player gets injured tackling like that they need to take some responsibility for their own actions
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@Kirwan said in NH club rugby:
That's the stupidest red card decision I've seen in years. Weak sauce.
😂😂😂
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@MiketheSnow said in NH club rugby:
@Kirwan said in NH club rugby:
That's the stupidest red card decision I've seen in years. Weak sauce.
😂😂😂
I'm not willing to say stupidest, because that is a packed field, but
It's right up there with the softest.
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I've just watched that again. Smith is defending his own head from a clash due to the "defender" coming in high. I don't think a player should be held accountable for protecting himself. I guess it would be interesting if he had let it happen, would the other player have been red carded for a dangerous tackle?
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@Snowy totally agree, I still feel the official needs to have a feel or some sort of empathy depending on the situation
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@Steven-Harris said in NH club rugby:
I still feel the official needs to have a feel or some sort of empathy depending on the situation
That was going to be my next comment - the refs are the sole arbiter of the law - which does give them discretionary power to use their own judgement. That can be a drawback at times but can also be beneficial to the game.
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@Snowy said in NH club rugby:
I've just watched that again. Smith is defending his own head from a clash due to the "defender" coming in high. I don't think a player should be held accountable for protecting himself.
The problem with that line of argument is you get the absurd "I was defending myself" defence at judiciary.
While you're perfectly entitled to brace, the forearm in that case has to be against your body, or stationary and not connecting above the shoulders of the defender, who is perfectly entitled to attempt a legal tackle.
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@Stargazer said in NH club rugby:
Precedent has been set with Jaco. Smith should be banned for that photo
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I was surprised this one didnt attract a card, around 1.08 given the way they were ruling things at the time.
