European Club Rugby
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@Snowy said in NH club rugby:
I've just watched that again. Smith is defending his own head from a clash due to the "defender" coming in high. I don't think a player should be held accountable for protecting himself.
The problem with that line of argument is you get the absurd "I was defending myself" defence at judiciary.
While you're perfectly entitled to brace, the forearm in that case has to be against your body, or stationary and not connecting above the shoulders of the defender, who is perfectly entitled to attempt a legal tackle.
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@Stargazer said in NH club rugby:
Precedent has been set with Jaco. Smith should be banned for that photo
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I was surprised this one didnt attract a card, around 1.08 given the way they were ruling things at the time.
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@MiketheSnow said in NH club rugby:
@Duluth said in NH club rugby:
Penalty try
Arm looked to be used to me.
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@booboo said in NH club rugby:
@MiketheSnow said in NH club rugby:
@Duluth said in NH club rugby:
Penalty try
Arm looked to be used to me.
Just the one with both my eyes open
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@MiketheSnow said in NH club rugby:
@booboo said in NH club rugby:
@MiketheSnow said in NH club rugby:
@Duluth said in NH club rugby:
Penalty try
Arm looked to be used to me.
Just the one with both my eyes open
Yeah, just the one
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@MiketheSnow seen plenty where the leading shoulder arm has not wrapped, but the trailing arm has and its been ok, in that his leading shoulder arm (which is the one that could do more damage if just a shoulder charge) attempted to wrap, would have been a travesty if that was a PT, more so that if that was the case, it would have to have been a YC as well.
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Pretty much shows how bad value that NZ stars are to overseas clubs most of the time. For every Vito there are a dozen Sopoangas. It's bad for the club's performances, and both NZ and their player development. I regularly read all the 'players of the weekend' for Prem, T14, and Pro14 matches. It is really really rare to see a kiwi on that list. Boks and Islanders, yes. Kiwis and Ozzies? Nope.
So how about you clubs over there put yourselves in the black and stop paying stupid money for shit (in your comps) kiwi players!
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@Machpants
In the team of the decade for the Prem and Pro14 you have 2 kiwis in the prem and 3 in the Pro14. Compare that to the 1 saffa in the each, or the 1 Fijian in each (but yes, no aussies).Of course, I am counting Nacewa, Waldrom and Aki as kiwis. Nacewa and Waldrom are already back and I would bet Aki will be back eventually.
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@mofitzy_ said in NH club rugby:
@Machpants
In the team of the decade for the Prem and Pro14 you have 2 kiwis in the prem and 3 in the Pro14. Compare that to the 1 saffa in the each, or the 1 Fijian in each (but yes, no aussies).Of course, I am counting Nacewa, Waldrom and Aki as kiwis. Nacewa and Waldrom are already back and I would bet Aki will be back eventually.
Whilst not in the Pro14 list, Hadleigh Parkes has been a great Kiwi servant to the Welsh club & country cause.
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Heās been one of those āglueā players. Not necessarily outstandingly brilliant but consistently good.
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@Catogrande said in NH club rugby:
Heās been one of those āglueā players. Not necessarily outstandingly brilliant but consistently good.
Quite right, he was nowhere near being "outstandingly brilliant" on the odd time he managed to to make any Super Team's starting lineup during his four year involved at that level.
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"Player of the weekend" lists, or teams of the year/decade, are mostly just subjective opinions from magazine/website editors or - as in this case - former players. IMO they don't say anything about the value of a player to a club. There are plenty of players in each team, who show up each and every game without doing the spectacular things that gives them headlines and spots in these lists. They are often very much appreciated by the clubs and team mates.
There are plenty of Kiwis who are re-signed by clubs for that very reason. Players like Fritz Lee, Tom Taylor, Tawera Kerr-Barlow, Charlie Faumuina, Isaia Toeava, Bryce Heem, Colin Slade are just a few examples. I'm sure Munster would have kept Alby Mathewson, too, if they could (he had to leave because of the number of foreigners in the squad, IIRC). I've heard he was highly regarded exactly because of his contribution to the development of the younger, Irish players.
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I hope Michael Fatialofa's neck injury isn't as bad as it sounds ...
Worcester have āmassive concernā over Fatialofa neck injury
Play was held up for almost 10 minutes as he received medical attention
