Saffas going?
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I guess the other factor is the temperature differences...
If this happens, could it see the end of INternational rugby as we know it?
It would surely see a slow demise of the rest of SH rugby, meaning more players heading north, giving clubs more power initially, putting more pressure on the INternational game...
I'm usually pretty optimistic, but I dont think this would be good at all
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@taniwharugby hadn't considered that. They may be closer in time zone but the seasons are out of whack. They can't play Super rugby and still play the 6N. So they either fall back on Currie Cup or export their players into the NH comp. Neither seem realistic
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@jegga said in Saffas going?:
This story has rolled around at some point every year this century, I'm sure the 6n teams will be stoked to get on a long haul flight to play on hard grounds in the height of summer.
So its agreed this is just the saffas posturing for a bigger slice of the SANZAAR pie? Steve Tew is barely out the door and it's all hitting the fan....
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@canefan said in Saffas going?:
@jegga said in Saffas going?:
This story has rolled around at some point every year this century, I'm sure the 6n teams will be stoked to get on a long haul flight to play on hard grounds in the height of summer.
So its agreed this is just the saffas posturing for a bigger slice of the SANZAAR pie? Steve Tew is barely out the door and it's all hitting the fan....
Probably is, kind of tedious though. It reminds me of the league players saying they'd switch to union when their contract was up for renegotiation .My favourite was when Willie Mason said the all blacks were interested in him.
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@Stargazer said in Saffas going?:
Quite a lot (relatively speaking) of fans follow their national teams to 6N away games; that will be near impossible if they play in South Africa.
Wait... what? It's near impossible to get to SA from the UK?
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@Bones said in Saffas going?:
@Stargazer said in Saffas going?:
Quite a lot (relatively speaking) of fans follow their national teams to 6N away games; that will be near impossible if they play in South Africa.
Wait... what? It's near impossible to get to SA from the UK?
It won't work without a major rejig of seasons
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@canefan said in Saffas going?:
@Bones said in Saffas going?:
@Stargazer said in Saffas going?:
Quite a lot (relatively speaking) of fans follow their national teams to 6N away games; that will be near impossible if they play in South Africa.
Wait... what? It's near impossible to get to SA from the UK?
It won't work without a major rejig of seasons
Ok...were you meaning to reply to someone else?
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@taniwharugby said in Saffas going?:
I expect if this happened, we would finally have no choice but to select players from overseas, although we'd probably just have to pick up those not snaffled up by the Euro teams.
Might not be the worst thing.
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Sooner or later SA will join 6 Nations and Heineken Cup, probably at expense of Italy. Too
much commercial pressure for this not to happen.My guess is that Super Rugby will be replaced by a new Aus, NZ and Pacific competition. The Rugby Championship will become a US, Argentina, Japan, Aus, NZ competition.
NZR will be forced to introduce their own version of Giteau's law.
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I agree about the Giteau rule. We’d have no choice but to select abroad.
But I think it’s optimistic to think that the Japanese and US will be keen to throw money at a passing concern for very long.
The ability to retain players will be based on money, we all agree on that. But the money will only be forthcoming if there is a palatable product for Asia and the Americans.
If NZ hammer everyone. If Argentina hammer everyone, who wants to see that? NZ and Argentina and no one else.
Anyone thinking the islands will be part of the plan is deluded. They aren’t part of the plan currently and there money around. How in the fuck are the remaining And soon to be much poorer RC unions going to prop up completely broke and corrupt Island unions?
Where we are headed in test rugby is meaningless games like football friendlies and only world cups mean something. The NH Club scene will become the be all end all.
Yes I’m being negative. Hoped to be proved well and truly wrong.
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I think I can speak on behalf of the majority of 6N supporters.
We neither want nor need SA in the competition.
And SA feel thesame way.
It's posturing.
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@MiketheSnow I've read the same reaction from French rugby fans on French sites and social media, but some are afraid it will happen because of the huge sums of money involved.
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If SA do this and dissolve the TRC it could be a blessing.
The NZRU could move to a model similar to what Notre Dame/BYU use in college football. Set their own schedule from start to finish and use the box office draw of the ABs to leverage better deals for their away games.
At least to start we would probably have to deal with a very weak slate of home fixtures to make that work.
