Coronavirus - New Zealand
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Nothing on the teacher union websites to suggest they are opposed to opening at level 3, just messages reiterating government advice/plans for level 3. Looks like it's just a few entitled muppets rather than the profession as a whole, who should probably shut up to avoid damaging public support for them. They also appear to be avoiding the point that teaching is babysitting for society, to some extent at least.
Typical lazy reporting by the media. Find a few people (off the record) that support the narrative of the story you are peddling and go for it
Here's someone relatively high profile in the profession on the record...
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@Godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Apparently they tested 340 people yesterday in Queenstown at a supermarket there, and half the tests are back already - all negative.
Testing in Canterbury and Waikato today.
5 locations in the Waikato including Matamata @Hooroo
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Donsteppa piston wristed gibbon
And why is he a piston wristed gibbon, he made some good points (not just ones that I agreed with and stated earlier, about it being a foot in either camp).
If it's ok for kids under 14, why not ones over 14 so they can take their exams? How are teachers supposed to teach kids at home and the ones that turn up to school?
It's either safe to open schools or it's not.
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@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Donsteppa piston wristed gibbon
And why is he a piston wristed gibbon, he made some good points (not just ones that I agreed with and stated earlier, about it being a foot in either camp).
If it's ok for kids under 14, why not ones over 14 so they can take their exams? How are teachers supposed to teach kids at home and the ones that turn up to school?
It's either safe to open schools or it's not.
At least he owned it. Whether you agree or disagree is another story
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I dont think it is about being 'ok' for those under 14 or not, is more that U14 arent legally allowed to stay home by themselves, hence the glorified babysitter comment, and is being done to assist those parents that can work, to work and in many cases with no access to people to look after thier kids...which was a concern when people were calling for shutting schools, that those parents who could work wouuld be forced to off-load to thier own parents.
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I dont think it is about being 'ok' for those under 14 or not, is more that U14 arent legally allowed to stay home by themselves, hence the glorified babysitter comment, and is being done to assist those parents that can work, to work and in many cases with no access to people to look after thier kids...which was a concern when people were calling for shutting schools, that those parents who could work wouuld be forced to off-load to thier own parents.
Yes, and his concern is that the halfway house approach is not about educating the kids, it's about having a place for those parents to dump their kids.
If it's OK for young kids to go to school, then it's ok for the older kids too - particularly as they have exams coming up. And if it's OK for some kids, then it should be ok for all kids, which would let the teachers teach one class, instead of some in the classroom and some at home.
As a headmaster, he raised valid concerns. Not least is he is finding out about the plans the same time as everybody else, and the Minister of Education says they will work out the practicalities next week. Without talking to the schools by the looks of things.
Apparantly this makes him a piston wristed gibbon.
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@Hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Geee I always said that if someones grandparent/parent dies due to the guy in Matamata who didn't self isolate upon return from overseas, that their name would be mud. Everyone knows who it is and he better hope that the old fulla that died isn't related to any of the local gangs
Yikes. Did this guy get back before midnight on the 15th though? Because there was no requirement to self-isolate for those people (which included myself) until the PM announced that on the 18th, so we mingled freely. Or is the distibction just too minimal for peope to care?
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@shark said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Geee I always said that if someones grandparent/parent dies due to the guy in Matamata who didn't self isolate upon return from overseas, that their name would be mud. Everyone knows who it is and he better hope that the old fulla that died isn't related to any of the local gangs
Yikes. Did this guy get back before midnight on the 15th though? Because there was no requirement to self-isolate for those people (which included myself) until the PM announced that on the 18th, so we mingled freely. Or is the distibction just too minimal for peope to care?
I can't back this up as I know who it is but not the when. I heard through the grapevine that he arrived post compulsory isolation. But you know grapevines, you don't how true they are
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@Hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@shark said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Geee I always said that if someones grandparent/parent dies due to the guy in Matamata who didn't self isolate upon return from overseas, that their name would be mud. Everyone knows who it is and he better hope that the old fulla that died isn't related to any of the local gangs
Yikes. Did this guy get back before midnight on the 15th though? Because there was no requirement to self-isolate for those people (which included myself) until the PM announced that on the 18th, so we mingled freely. Or is the distibction just too minimal for peope to care?
I can't back this up as I know who it is but not the when. I heard through the grapevine that he arrived post compulsory isolation. But you know grapevines, you don't how true they are
Might be a chinese gooseberry vine....
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@Kirwan maybe I'm a bit cynical, but maybe if 'all' these teachers dont feel they will be safe and/or able to provide a learning environment to the kids on thier class and online (as they are now) then they could opt to have thier pay reduced to the Govt. subsidy?
As I said, I know plenty of teachers, some seem keen as mustard to get back to it, some, think stretching the lockdown out is a good idea...the latter probably fuel my cynicism
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@shark I know someone who arrived back several hours prior to midnight on the 15th form Aus, he self isolated anyway, guess it depends on the person and how seriously they took things back then given how rapidly we moved from self-iso, to a soft border close to L3 to L4....15th to 25th?
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@shark I know someone who arrived back several hours prior to midnight on the 15th form Aus, he self isolated anyway, guess it depends on the person and how seriously they took things back then given how rapidly we moved from self-iso, to a soft border close to L3 to L4....15th to 25th?
It's a really interesting point . We arrived knowing we had to isolate, and we took it seriously. But had we arrived a day or a few hours prior??? I genuinely don't think we would have isolated.
Does that make me a terrible person?!!
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Absolutely