Coronavirus - New Zealand
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@raznomore and Ashley was so prescient with his "a 2nd wave is unavoidable" call...
Cool. Something to add to the conspiracy theories thread.
It was obvious to all that most of NZ (myself included) had become complacent and, given the likelihood of things reappearing, weren’t prepared enough for action when it did.
At least some listened and tried to prepare with masks etcI do agree that we are going to have to find a way of living with this. One of the biggest issues is that despite an increase we still don’t have the ICU capacity in our hospitals and wouldn’t cope with a widespread problem.
We have brought some time in the last couple of months but haven’t solved the conundrum -
Many on twitter are claiming that the bus drivers who drove the overseas returnees to other parts of the country were not being tested. Granted this is just twiterville gossip but there are also questions that need to be asked about the quality of border control in light of some of the breaches that happened. No point going into L3 if your border security is not strong.
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@akan004 said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Many on twitter are claiming that the bus drivers who drove the overseas returnees to other parts of the country were not being tested. Granted this is just twiterville gossip but there are also questions that need to be asked about the quality of border control in light of some of the breaches that happened. No point going into L3 if your border security is not strong.
I’d believe that. Crew on air NZ flights weren’t been tested either
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@Virgil said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@akan004 said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Many on twitter are claiming that the bus drivers who drove the overseas returnees to other parts of the country were not being tested. Granted this is just twiterville gossip but there are also questions that need to be asked about the quality of border control in light of some of the breaches that happened. No point going into L3 if your border security is not strong.
I’d believe that. Crew on air NZ flights weren’t been tested either
Jesus. That's irresponsible.
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Now we don't need Winger to stoke paranoia and conspiracy theories.
It was inevitable because logic suggested it was going to happen. Based on a basic understanding of human frailties, looking at overseas experiences and just shit happens.
they have actually said this since we went to Lvl 1. I'm guessing they stepped up the messaging recently as it was obvious people were getting more and more complacent and also in light of Melbourne's debacle.
I posted about talking to a DHB and being told it was only a matter of time but that they were better prepared.
So 4 cases of the yearly flu is used as an excuse to lock the country down again. And you still don't see it.
What will it take.
At this point I believe Trump is the worlds only hope. Or we will live in a world where the people have limited rights and freedoms. Using global warming (as it gets colder) or say a yearly flu to treat us all like silly children. Where the center gives the orders and the children must comply. Or else. And many will applaud the strong Govt action to keep us all safe. As economies collapse.
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@akan004 said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Virgil said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@akan004 said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Many on twitter are claiming that the bus drivers who drove the overseas returnees to other parts of the country were not being tested. Granted this is just twiterville gossip but there are also questions that need to be asked about the quality of border control in light of some of the breaches that happened. No point going into L3 if your border security is not strong.
I’d believe that. Crew on air NZ flights weren’t been tested either
Jesus. That's irresponsible.
To be fair - it's not like they were crossing borders and possibly interacting in locales where it hadn't been eliminated. There were just up there flying around, looping the loop and defying the ground.
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If you can't buy a mask, it's pretty easy to make a non-sewn mask.
Instructions here: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/how-to-make-cloth-face-covering.html
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@Crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@raznomore and Ashley was so prescient with his "a 2nd wave is unavoidable" call...
I do agree that we are going to have to find a way of living with this.
The Swedish approach? Or like every country in the world until this year
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@Winger said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
At this point I believe Trump is the worlds only hope.
take that BS to the other thread!
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Winger said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
At this point I believe Trump is the worlds only hope.
take that BS to the other thread!
A piss take surely??
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@Virgil said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Winger said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
At this point I believe Trump is the worlds only hope.
take that BS to the other thread!
A piss take surely??
sadly no
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Virgil said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Winger said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
At this point I believe Trump is the worlds only hope.
take that BS to the other thread!
A piss take surely??
sadly no
My reply was a piss take as well
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@Crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Thanks jafas.
Now we’ll all be in lockdown if you insist on fleeing Auckland.mate of mine reckons a bunch of his neigbours fucked of straight after the announcement
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Police stops.
Their checkpoint in Tuakau is on the wrong side, dumb. That is Well in Waikato District. That is pretty much adding more to Auckland.
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through a TP organisation, we were due to a have a zoom presentation with Dr Bloomfield tomorrow, I wonder if that will still go ahead, and if so, I bet there wont be a Q & A session after...
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@Winger said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
So 4 cases of the yearly flu is used as an excuse to lock the country down again. And you still don't see it.
What will it take.Elvis to emerge from his secret bunker on the Moon and roar into town on a Harley signing "DONALD WAS RIGHT" to the tune of Suspicious Minds waving a signed confession by Hilary, Obama and the Pope that COVID-19 is indeed a devious Illuminati mind control plot!
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@No-Quarter said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
It just seems like nothing has changed since the last lockdown. No plans on how to deal with the next inevitable outbreak other than "let's rocket from level 1 to level 3 again!". That's not a solution. There's no end game other than some vague hope of a vaccine that is unlikely to be ready short-term if at all.
Has anybody seen the plans - which surely have been developed - to protect care and rest homes? Are there any guidelines or regulations about staff working in multiple facilities? After seeing the doc the other weekend about the facility in Christchurch, what thought has been put into supplementing the staff at these homes if they end up in lockdown? How do these people get appropriate PPE to enable them to care for the elderly and vulnerable? I guess my expectation is that the MOH has used the intervening time to put hard practical steps in place to make sure that the homes are supported so they can do right by their residents, but I've heard nothing.
Similarly, surely the last couple of months has been used wisely to increase capacity in IC wards (beds / ventilators / nursing). Is that the case or have we abandoned the whole "flatten the curve while we increase capacity" thing?