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@Crucial said in US Politics:
After 4 years I still can't make my mind up how much is deliberte and how much is because he is thick and fails to even try and understand basic information
I don't think he's thick but I don't think he's all that bright. With his start in life and all the other advantages that he has enjoyed I'd expect a sizeable minority if not majority would have been able to do more with their lives.
What he has in spades is small man's disease which contributes to his demagoguery. What he has discovered is that if you lie outrageously enough a lot of people will believe it because it must be true. Helped by total conviction because he believes his own falsehoods.
I guess when you are surrounded by sycophants and assorted hangers on its hard not to believe in your own omnipotence and that the universe does truly revolve around your rug anointed head. Double down by factoring in the fear engendered by his bellicose bullying and vindictiveness and you have a very potent brew.
He is irredeemable and is proving it for all bar the (large number of) true believers.
This has been on the cards for months. Everyone could see it coming. He certainly got his excuses in early enough. The only hope to avoid all the rancour and violence that's bout to erupt was that the Democrats won big. Then they chose Biden.....
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Just reminder about the rules. The rules are more strict in here because at several times over the years it became a cesspool in here
Most of these were added when some pro Trump people were spamming and/or acting like dicks
https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/1737/politics-sub-forumThere's been a crazy amount of playing the man not the ball which has been deleted. That shit is toxic and makes the whole forum unpleasant.
Oh and I agree with @Kirwan there's no need to relitigate every tedious controversy over the last few years. There's enough currently happening isn't there??
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fair enough, its just such a burly line when we're talking about the election of a single person
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@barbarian AK? Arkansas ?
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Alaska
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@JC said in US Politics:
@Virgil said in US Politics:
“I only lost because you’ll cheated”
What an embarrassment.
Does that mean we've actually won 6 RWCs?
Well possibly one more. Mr Barnes was not an impartial adjudicator.
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@Snowy said in US Politics:
@JC said in US Politics:
@Virgil said in US Politics:
“I only lost because you’ll cheated”
What an embarrassment.
Does that mean we've actually won 6 RWCs?
Well possibly one more. Mr Barnes was not an impartial adjudicator.
Next quarter final the ABs are in I'm going to stand on the sideline with my gun, sorry, "mah sahdahm", to make sure the refereeing team do it right. I encourage you all to do likewise
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@JC said in US Politics:
@Snowy said in US Politics:
@JC said in US Politics:
@Virgil said in US Politics:
“I only lost because you’ll cheated”
What an embarrassment.
Does that mean we've actually won 6 RWCs?
Well possibly one more. Mr Barnes was not an impartial adjudicator.
Next quarter final the ABs are in I'm going to stand on the sideline with my gun, sorry, "mah sahdahm", to make sure the refereeing team do it right. I encourage you all to do likewise
y'all
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@Crucial said in US Politics:
@JC said in US Politics:
@Snowy said in US Politics:
@JC said in US Politics:
@Virgil said in US Politics:
“I only lost because you’ll cheated”
What an embarrassment.
Does that mean we've actually won 6 RWCs?
Well possibly one more. Mr Barnes was not an impartial adjudicator.
Next quarter final the ABs are in I'm going to stand on the sideline with my gun, sorry, "mah sahdahm", to make sure the refereeing team do it right. I encourage you all to do likewise
y'all
y'all qaeda is one of the funniest things i have read out of this shitshow
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only 2k votes in it in GA
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@Kiwiwomble said in US Politics:
only 2k votes in it in GA
So Biden has picked up at a rate of almost 76% on the remaining. Should get the rest easily but the end margin will be very small and certainly need a recount
Edit: around 5-6k votes in it at the end
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Erie county is going Biden; that's a good indicator of the how the state will go.
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@Kirwan that sort of stuff absolutely has to come out in the wash. But I wonder how many instances of genuine administrative error you might expect when you are looking at that many votes across that many types of systems etc - let alone the role of the postal service system. How all that plays out against any genuine fraud will be interesting, as will the scale of either type. Plenty of stories (social media so unverified of course ) of people checking their vote and it's missing, or they were never registered.
If there is any genuine errors caught there is little to no chance that most of the other side will see it as deliberate. Ugh.
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@Kirwan said in US Politics:
Here's an anecdote to mull over, have a friend in the States whose family went to vote but they had already received mail in ballots for them. That they had not requested.
didn't someone mention earlier in the thread that as part of the count process ballots we're checked against the register and if two were received both were thrown out?
i mean, my NZ was just a PDF i could have printed off loads of times...but it gets compared against the register when its counted
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@Paekakboyz if there is real evidence, it will (or should) be examined in court to get an idea of the scale of the issue.
I guess my point is just because Trump is a clown doesn't mean he's wrong.
Look at his mangling of what his science advisors told him about Covid, his team could be passing along their information and its gets scrambled through whatever that guy has between his ears.
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@Kiwiwomble said in US Politics:
@Kirwan said in US Politics:
Here's an anecdote to mull over, have a friend in the States whose family went to vote but they had already received mail in ballots for them. That they had not requested.
didn't someone mention earlier in the thread that as part of the count process ballots we're checked against the register and if two were received both were thrown out?
i mean, my NZ was just a PDF i could have printed off loads of times...but it gets compared against the register when its counted
It's different in every state by the looks of it. But lets say that's right, and you had access to a Trump or Biden majority area lit of registered voters, that would be a neat trick to send out ballots and prevent people from voting.
Some reports of ballots being sent out with people preselected too.
Lots of noise to sort through.
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