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    @ACT-Crusader said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    @Gunner but we are not a “really good team” when it comes to T20. I’m happy to get another win against Pakistan who have been one of the better T20 teams in recent years.

    No but I’m sure they want to be...

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    Good article with actual numbers and some research.

    Stuff
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    @Rapido I applaud the selectors and their consistent approach, it's fair enough to fall back on a players overall career numbers when they're as good as Nicholls'. He found form, and the policy has proven a success.

    There must come a point though, when enough is enough.

    IMO they wouldn't be doing their job if after 10 failures, they weren't in the back of their minds thinking 'how many more chances do we give him before we give the next guy a crack?'

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    @Rapido

    That is a good one. Shows just how good Young has been too. I don't remember the last time we had batting depth this good. No one looks like they're only their because of a lack of alternatives (maybe Blundell the makeshift opener but his performances have been okay) and not one but two guys smashing the door down at FC level.

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    @Cyclops said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    @Rapido

    That is a good one. Shows just how good Young has been too. I don't remember the last time we had batting depth this good. No one looks like they're only their because of a lack of alternatives (maybe Blundell the makeshift opener but his performances have been okay) and not one but two guys smashing the door down at FC level.

    Two? Conway and Ravidra?

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    @booboo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    @Cyclops said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    @Rapido

    That is a good one. Shows just how good Young has been too. I don't remember the last time we had batting depth this good. No one looks like they're only their because of a lack of alternatives (maybe Blundell the makeshift opener but his performances have been okay) and not one but two guys smashing the door down at FC level.

    Two? Conway and Ravidra?

    Young and Conway.

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    @booboo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    @Cyclops said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    @Rapido

    That is a good one. Shows just how good Young has been too. I don't remember the last time we had batting depth this good. No one looks like they're only their because of a lack of alternatives (maybe Blundell the makeshift opener but his performances have been okay) and not one but two guys smashing the door down at FC level.

    Two? Conway and Ravidra?

    Young.

    1124 runs, 2 tons, average 66 and 996 runs, 5 tons, average 62. That's the last 20 innings from Young and Conway. (taken from that article)

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    Nicholls needed that big ton, no two ways about it but I think it needs to be remembered that Ross Taylor is surely only a season or two away from retiring and for me Nicholls will take the spot at four with Conway slotting in at five ( or the other way round ). They’ll give him a pretty long leash to find form I reckon.

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    @Rapido @Cyclops thanks (I thought Young was in the team ... )

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    So will they tinker with their selections tonight, to keep creating more depth for the T20 WC, or do we keep rolling out our best XI and keep building momentum?

    I hope it's the latter.

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    How many times was Nichols dropped by the Windies when he made his last 100? At least three? I am not convinced he is 'back' yet.

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    @Crazy-Horse said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    How many times was Nichols dropped by the Windies when he made his last 100? At least three? I am not convinced he is 'back' yet.

    Yeah getting runs against a team as awful as they were may not be the best yardstick

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    @Crazy-Horse said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    How many times was Nichols dropped by the Windies when he made his last 100? At least three? I am not convinced he is 'back' yet.

    The answer is in the article. Typical bloody fern ..........

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    Well, maybe not all of the drops.

    On 21, he hit one straight to short leg that didn’t stick, and on 47, he was put down twice in the slips, while there were a number of other false shots and edges.

    There were so many half chances / false shots in the first 50 or so runs.

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    @Cyclops said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    996 runs, 5 tons, average 62

    So typical shit or bust Kiwi batsman. Minimum 500 runs in 5 innings means 496 in total over the other 15. So an average in the low 30's. Not exactly Mr Consistency then.

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    @dogmeat said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    @Cyclops said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    996 runs, 5 tons, average 62

    So typical shit or bust Kiwi batsman. Minimum 500 runs in 5 innings means 496 in total over the other 15. So an average in the low 30's. Not exactly Mr Consistency then.

    One of them was actually a triple hundy.

    Edit. No, Those are Young's numbers, not Conways.

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    Although I think Andrew Voerman's numbers are wrong on Conway.

    he’s scored 1124 runs in his last 20 first-class innings* at an average of 66, with two centuries

    I make it that Devon Conway has scored 1344 runs from his last 20 FC innings, 3 hundreds & 6 half-centuries, average of 74.66

    157, 4, 16, 27, 94, 31, 81, 94, 327, 66, 96, 19, 4, 9, 40, 1, 156*, 14*, 46, 62

    https://archive.nzc.nz/Players/389/389099/First-Class_Matches.html
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    Interesting, I wonder if he's missed the last couple of plunket shield or something. I think Young start to the season hasn't been as sharp so the gap might be wider.

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    @Rapido I want to see both him and Young in the team asap. Time to get a bit ruthless with our selections.

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    @Paekakboyz said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    @Rapido I want to see both him and Young in the team asap. Time to get a bit ruthless with our selections.

    Kane WIlliamson made no runs in the last test. Fuck him off for a start

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