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    @sparky said in Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021):

    Patrick Tuipulotu should be allowed to give an interview in any language he wants after his side has lost, he's played poorly and he's not looked like an All Black.

    In Japanese or Portuguese? That would be handy in N Z

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    I feel in 2 minds about this result

    One that's its good if and only if the Crusaders weren't so far ahead of everyone else. So if there were only 4 teams it would be a great result for the competition
    Two an overall disappointment. The Blues aren't really that much better than the other three teams. Slightly better but not much. This means the Crusaders will walk it again. Even easier than last year. And this unevenness of the teams is unlikely to be ever addressed by NZR.

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    @winger said in Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021):

    I feel in 2 minds about this result

    One that's its good if and only if the Crusaders weren't so far ahead of everyone else. So if there were only 4 teams it would be a great result for the competition
    Two an overall disappointment. The Blues aren't really that much better than the other three teams. Slightly better but not much. This means the Crusaders will walk it again. Even easier than last year. And this unevenness of the teams is unlikely to be ever addressed by NZR.

    I cannot agree that the difference should be addressed by the NZRFU. Blues player list is as impressive as the Crusaders, they need to look within to find out how they perform to Crusader level. They should be evens if not slightly stronger in the forward pack as well.

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    @nevorian said in Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021):

    @winger said in Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021):

    I feel in 2 minds about this result

    One that's its good if and only if the Crusaders weren't so far ahead of everyone else. So if there were only 4 teams it would be a great result for the competition
    Two an overall disappointment. The Blues aren't really that much better than the other three teams. Slightly better but not much. This means the Crusaders will walk it again. Even easier than last year. And this unevenness of the teams is unlikely to be ever addressed by NZR.

    I cannot agree that the difference should be addressed by the NZRFU. Blues player list is as impressive as the Crusaders, they need to look within to find out how they perform to Crusader level. They should be evens if not slightly stronger in the forward pack as well.

    If NZR don't address it no-one will. As the current financial system benefits teams too much with ABs in them. The best next level down players eventually take off because money

    And its not just about the Blues and Crusaders. I want all teams to be fairly exactly strong (or weak) over time. With starting ABs shared out between teams

    But I know it would need a lot of thought. But my view is teams with hardly any ABs should have more money to attract the best young talent. (And maybe its not possible to do)

    edit Was think about this while walking outside (I've hurt my back so am a bit restricted - and bored - at present)

    At present the player contracting is centralised (I hope I'm right). Personally ive always preferred decentralised set - up. So if I was the rugby chief with unlimited power. I would look at moving to a decentralised set-up. When all the payments to the ABs and super rugby players are added. 10% (or less. Just enough to add a bit as required)say goes to the NZR to top up players salary as required. The rest divided between the 5 teams to contract players as they see fit.

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    @nevorian said in Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021):

    @winger said in Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021):

    I feel in 2 minds about this result

    One that's its good if and only if the Crusaders weren't so far ahead of everyone else. So if there were only 4 teams it would be a great result for the competition
    Two an overall disappointment. The Blues aren't really that much better than the other three teams. Slightly better but not much. This means the Crusaders will walk it again. Even easier than last year. And this unevenness of the teams is unlikely to be ever addressed by NZR.

    I cannot agree that the difference should be addressed by the NZRFU. Blues player list is as impressive as the Crusaders, they need to look within to find out how they perform to Crusader level. They should be evens if not slightly stronger in the forward pack as well.

    Yeah it seems crazy to weaken teams instead of teams working harder to get better
    Itโ€™s sport some teams dominate maybe we donโ€™t give out trophies and we donโ€™t keep score in case it offends some people.

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    @crucial said in Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021):

    When the teams weee announced someone doubted Daltons ability to get turnovers.
    Good to see TSF analysis is still bang on.

    I asked if he was best suited at 7 given his height, is that what you mean? I thought he was more of a 6 or 8, and might be burrowed under by Cane, I was wrong. But I think it would be a bit harsh to judge overall TSF analysis on my comments/questions.

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    @kev said in Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021):

    @siam said in Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021):

    The match winning try. Damien McKenzie is a good player, no doubt about it. A really good player would have passed it.

    Good win Chiefs though, now if someone can beat the red team we might have a half interesting comp.

    Yes I keep thinking Damien is not the guy to close out a game for the ABs

    But off the bench, possibly at 10, as a 15/10 cover, is where they'd play him.

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    @nostrildamus said in Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021):

    @crucial said in Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021):

    When the teams weee announced someone doubted Daltons ability to get turnovers.
    Good to see TSF analysis is still bang on.

    I asked if he was best suited at 7 given his height, is that what you mean? I thought he was more of a 6 or 8, and might be burrowed under by Cane, I was wrong. But I think it would be a bit harsh to judge overall TSF analysis on my comments/questions.

    Shit no. We're all in this together. It's why we push back against stupidity (to let the simple poor analysis shine)

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    @dan54 said in Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021):

    Well how can you be in a tipping comp with these games?

    Keep betting on black...and red
    ๐Ÿ˜Ž

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    @nostrildamus said in Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021):

    @kev said in Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021):

    @siam said in Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021):

    The match winning try. Damien McKenzie is a good player, no doubt about it. A really good player would have passed it.

    Good win Chiefs though, now if someone can beat the red team we might have a half interesting comp.

    Yes I keep thinking Damien is not the guy to close out a game for the ABs

    But off the bench, possibly at 10, as a 15/10 cover, is where they'd play him.

    Given Henry, Hansen and now Foster have all shown a propensity to have three 1st 5 options in the 23, there is a strong chance that all of B. Barrett, Moโ€™unga and DMac make the side.

    You may recall that we had 22s with DC, Cruden and Beaudie in the same lineup.

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    @act-crusader I should wash my mouth out but it may get harder and harder for BB to stay in the starting lineup...

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    @winger said in Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021):

    I feel in 2 minds about this result

    One that's its good if and only if the Crusaders weren't so far ahead of everyone else. So if there were only 4 teams it would be a great result for the competition
    Two an overall disappointment. The Blues aren't really that much better than the other three teams. Slightly better but not much. This means the Crusaders will walk it again. Even easier than last year. And this unevenness of the teams is unlikely to be ever addressed by NZR.

    They had the perfect chance to weaken the Crusaders simply by appointing Scott Robertson as the All Blacks Head Coach but overlooked that opportunity.

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    @higgins said in Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021):

    @winger said in Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021):

    I feel in 2 minds about this result

    One that's its good if and only if the Crusaders weren't so far ahead of everyone else. So if there were only 4 teams it would be a great result for the competition
    Two an overall disappointment. The Blues aren't really that much better than the other three teams. Slightly better but not much. This means the Crusaders will walk it again. Even easier than last year. And this unevenness of the teams is unlikely to be ever addressed by NZR.

    They had the perfect chance to weaken the Crusaders simply by appointing Scott Robertson as the All Blacks Head Coach but overlooked that opportunity.

    Instead they took the option of strengthening the Chiefs by allowing Gatland to coach the Lions ๐Ÿ˜‰

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    @act-crusader said in Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021):

    @dan54 said in Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021):

    Well how can you be in a tipping comp with these games?

    Keep betting on black...and red
    ๐Ÿ˜Ž

    Well hard not to when they playing. I love a comp where you not sure of winners though.

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    @booboo I agree but he has a low ceiling. Has to behind a pack in the front foot all the time.

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    That pass was blatantly forward lol, it only wasn't "obvious" because it was a short ball. If it travelled 2m+ it would have looked ridiculous.

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    @SammyC welcome back mate, we thought you got stuck in Mexico somewhere

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    @no-quarter said in Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021):

    @SammyC welcome back mate, we thought you got stuck in Mexico somewhere

    Is he still cycling ?

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    @no-quarter said in Chiefs v Blues (27 March 2021):

    That pass was blatantly forward lol, it only wasn't "obvious" because it was a short ball. If it travelled 2m+ it would have looked ridiculous.

    I'm disagreeing with you here. It was flat.

    Believe me, I'd love for that to be a shocking call I could rail against - but it was fine. Flat, but not clearly forward. Play on, don't be a pedant. I can get arrows and lines out if you like ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

    Now the pedantry shown with the maul a few minutes before, that I can rail against...

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