Rugby Commentators/Presenters
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@crucial said in Rugby Commentators:
BTW the clamping down on players advancing ahead of a kick is a good thing. It may look like it isn't affecting play
Dead right it does. I remember Ted talking about it years ago and trying to get refs to enforce it to open up games. He even went on to make the point that a touch finder was the same. I.E. ball is out but players that were in front of the kicker rushed up to form a lineout to prevent a quick throw in.
As I understand it, it doesn't matter if the ball has gone out, you still can't advance until put onside?
One other thought on that law is that kickers always seem to think that they need to chase the ball. I was taught to just run straight up field if you have done an angled kick, cover the shortest distance to get in front of your team mates, particularly from behind the forwards in a ruck or maul. Don't seem to see that much now or maybe watching on TB means that it isn't visible.
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@snowy said in Rugby Commentators:
@crucial said in Rugby Commentators:
BTW the clamping down on players advancing ahead of a kick is a good thing. It may look like it isn't affecting play
Dead right it does. I remember Ted talking about it years ago and trying to get refs to enforce it to open up games. He even went on to make the point that a touch finder was the same. I.E. ball is out but players that were in front of the kicker rushed up to form a lineout to prevent a quick throw in.
As I understand it, it doesn't matter if the ball has gone out, you still can't advance until put onside?
One other thought on that law is that kickers always seem to think that they need to chase the ball. I was taught to just run straight up field if you have done an angled kick, cover the shortest distance to get in front of your team mates, particularly from behind the forwards in a ruck or maul. Don't seem to see that much now or maybe watching on TB means that it isn't visible.
Yeah, it just shows how stupid these so called experts commenting on the game are. Having a forward turn and start advancing ahead of the kicker usually results in that forward covering a channel that impacts on the running lines and options of the team bringing the ball back. Just like an offside defender that shuts down a 10s options in sending the ball wide.
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@snowy said in Rugby Commentators:
As I understand it, it doesn't matter if the ball has gone out, you still can't advance until put onside?
Dunno quite where you'd find that in the Laws, but it doesn't sound right to me.
Surely, once the ball is in touch - that phase of play is ended. If the other team wants to take a quick throw in that's their choice and risk?
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@chris-b said in Rugby Commentators:
@snowy said in Rugby Commentators:
As I understand it, it doesn't matter if the ball has gone out, you still can't advance until put onside?
Dunno quite where you'd find that in the Laws, but it doesn't sound right to me.
Surely, once the ball is in touch - that phase of play is ended. If the other team wants to take a quick throw in that's their choice and risk?
Correct. It was debated quite heavily a few years back as quick throws became a popular attacking option..Once the ball is out then play has stopped and you can only be offside during play.
You can still be offside advancing before the ball has crossed touch though.
Henry's take on it was worth discussing. He was looking to open up more attacking options and if players were getting away with crowding off the QT option from a kick that happened behind them he was trying to see if something could be done rules wise. -
@chris-b said in Rugby Commentators:
@snowy said in Rugby Commentators:
As I understand it, it doesn't matter if the ball has gone out, you still can't advance until put onside?
Dunno quite where you'd find that in the Laws, but it doesn't sound right to me.
Surely, once the ball is in touch - that phase of play is ended. If the other team wants to take a quick throw in that's their choice and risk?
I didn't find it in the laws, as I said, it did come from Ted, so I was hoping that he knew what he was talking about. He was probably talking about players advancing full stop. They need to be put onside until the AR puts the flag up to enable a quick throw in, until then the ball is in play.
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Fucken hell I am so fucking sick of kiwi commentators not knowing the laws and then moaning about the ref playing to the laws.
You were an AB tight forward Kane, how do you not understand must stay connected?
Why do the kiwi commentators have to do such poor advertising of the game.
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@tim said in Rugby Commentators:
@bones Given Hames was the most penalised forward in Super Rugby one season, perhaps it isn't so surprising that he has no idea.
Oh I didn't know that, I thought he was just being deliberately obtuse so that he could have a go at the ref, but maybe not.
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@tim said in Rugby Commentators:
The relentless negativity of Jeff Wilson. He needs to go.
Someone should invite him to post on the Fern - he sounds like he'd fit in, with massive scope to choose from...
The commentators suck
The players suck
The players brains definitely suck
The coaches suck
The referees suck
The Laws suck
The jerseys suck
The stadia suck
The stadia food and drinks suck
The music sucks
Modern rugby sucks!!!
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@chris-b said in Rugby Commentators:
@tim said in Rugby Commentators:
The relentless negativity of Jeff Wilson. He needs to go.
Someone should invite him to post on the Fern - he sounds like he'd fit in, with massive scope to choose from...
The commentators suck
The players suck
The players brains definitely suck
The coaches suck
The referees suck
The Laws suck
The jerseys suck
The stadia suck
The stadia food and drinks suck
The music sucks
Modern rugby sucks!!!Things have been really negative around here for a while now when it comes to rugby. Seems worse than normal. Are we getting older and grumpier, or does rugby actually suck at the moment?
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@crazy-horse said in Rugby Commentators:
@chris-b said in Rugby Commentators:
@tim said in Rugby Commentators:
The relentless negativity of Jeff Wilson. He needs to go.
Someone should invite him to post on the Fern - he sounds like he'd fit in, with massive scope to choose from...
The commentators suck
The players suck
The players brains definitely suck
The coaches suck
The referees suck
The Laws suck
The jerseys suck
The stadia suck
The stadia food and drinks suck
The music sucks
Modern rugby sucks!!!Things have been really negative around here for a while now when it comes to rugby. Seems worse than normal. Are we getting older and grumpier, or does rugby actually suck at the moment?
Probably all that you mention is correct but we have a contest, that isn't a contest, doesn't help. The whole point of top level sport is a match up. Depending on how you define match. I like this one:
a person or thing that is equal to another in quality or strength. -
@crazy-horse said in Rugby Commentators:
Things have been really negative around here for a while now when it comes to rugby. Seems worse than normal. Are we getting older and grumpier, or does rugby actually suck at the moment?
AB's have underwhelmed for several years, lots of top players have left and most squads are a bit thin, and the Crusaders have dominated for years. Not a lot to be enthusiastic about for most posters.
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@chris-b said in Rugby Commentators:
@tim said in Rugby Commentators:
The relentless negativity of Jeff Wilson. He needs to go.
Someone should invite him to post on the Fern - he sounds like he'd fit in, with massive scope to choose from...
The commentators suck
The players suck
The players brains definitely suck
The coaches suck
The referees suck
The Laws suck
The jerseys suck
The stadia suck
The stadia food and drinks suck
The music sucks
Modern rugby sucks!!!However, the Blacks Caps don't suck.
The fern has changed a bit. Possibly become accurate?
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@bones said in Rugby Commentators:
Fucken hell I am so fucking sick of kiwi commentators not knowing the laws and then moaning about the ref playing to the laws.
You were an AB tight forward Kane, how do you not understand must stay connected?
Especially as Hames is a ref himself. He seems happy to criticise other refs in commentary though.
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@siam said in Rugby Commentators:
Swannell is the new bench mark for the game calling role. Clear, accurate and comprehensive with names and adds apt adjectives to what we can see for ourselves. Good at her job.
Yeah the only one who is not painfull to listen to
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I like Swannell I thinks she's great. I like Laban as well even though he's a Wainui man...but that fact he is Polynesian and knows how to pronounce the names added to this, his call is accurate, he's not an excitable fan boy and doesn't try to insert "boomfa" or "I take Umbrage with that call", he's the voice for me.
*Fixed lol
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@raznomore said in Rugby Commentators:
I like Swannell I thinks she's great. I like Laban as well even though he's a Wainui man...but that fact he is Polynesian and knows how to pronounce the names added to the fact his call is accurate, not an excitable fan boy and doesn't try to insert "boomfa" or "I take Umbridge with that call" are major pluses for me.
The only umbrage I take with Laban is that he mixes his league and union language.
