Smart TVs
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My Samsung QLED (6mo old now) is nice, and yeah it came with a bunch of apps installed which keeps the wife and daughter unit happy. I got a new Chromecast (the dongle-y one with a remote) which allows me to install apps I want so it is also good.
Also means my apps and logins are on the Chromecast, and the wife's are on the TV apps. Had to create a Samsung account to install apps, but that was a small price to pay.
Handy for hiding your pornhub app then.
Great idea, but not secret enough....
Your married tho, why do you need pornhub..
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A quick look at JB Hifi shows just how varied prices are for pretty much the same thing
These are all 50". All OLED.All 4K. All from manufacturers in the OLED Alliance which sets standards for marketing use of the term.
Samsung Q90A $3495
Samsung Q80A $2749
TCL $1098Those are huge differences.
Sound on the TCL will be rubbish but $2.4k buys a pretty flash soundbar. In fact you can get a nice Dolby Atmos 3:1 for under a grand(all the TVs support it)
Yes the Q90A will have a slightly nicer picture with better blacks but fuck that's a lot to pay for something you will hardly notice.
The two Samsungs are tied to the Samsung Smart system which may or may not get long support as new models come out. The TCL is Android so go for your life with apps.
The Samsungs come with a one year manufacturer's warranty while the TCL is three years!
Edit: I recently brought a FFalcon 50" for $650 (just 4K LED) after asking the sales guy what the deal was with the brand. He said it is exactly the same TV, same remote, same firmware as the TCL but the warranty was one instead of three years (same as Samsung). It's a good TV. Nice and sharp and clear in a well lit room.
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I have a Samsung and I'm not impressed with their bloatware. All I want is a 4K 10 bit HDR screen with HDMI and LAN inputs. The ability to flash it would be a bonus.
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@antipodean said in Smart TVs:
I have a Samsung and I'm not impressed with their bloatware. All I want is a 4K 10 bit HDR screen with HDMI and LAN inputs. The ability to flash it would be a bonus.
Do you actually use it? My Samsung TV is just the screen I watch stuff on - I'll occasionally watch Stan Sport on it when I want to flick easily between Stan and Kayo.
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seriously all of you comparing 42" and 50" kitchen size tvs..
minimum 65" or you dont watch enough
anything using AI to improve upscaling in movement not just colours is useful regardless of brand (although very few doing this), but price is important.
Havent gone 8k yet..price still way to high
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@antipodean said in Smart TVs:
I have a Samsung and I'm not impressed with their bloatware. All I want is a 4K 10 bit HDR screen with HDMI and LAN inputs. The ability to flash it would be a bonus.
Do you actually use it? My Samsung TV is just the screen I watch stuff on - I'll occasionally watch Stan Sport on it when I want to flick easily between Stan and Kayo.
There's a bunch of unnecessary crap which takes up memory and CPU. That's before raising concerns about the data it sends to third parties. Hence another reason why I run pi-hole.
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@bayimports said in Smart TVs:
seriously all of you comparing 42" and 50" kitchen size tvs..
minimum 65" or you dont watch enough
anything using AI to improve upscaling in movement not just colours is useful regardless of brand (although very few doing this), but price is important.
Havent gone 8k yet..price still way to high
i have a 65 outside used only for sport and racing. it's fucking awesome
that size in the media room would be ridiculous though
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@mariner4life said in Smart TVs:
@bayimports said in Smart TVs:
seriously all of you comparing 42" and 50" kitchen size tvs..
minimum 65" or you dont watch enough
anything using AI to improve upscaling in movement not just colours is useful regardless of brand (although very few doing this), but price is important.
Havent gone 8k yet..price still way to high
i have a 65 outside used only for sport and racing. it's fucking awesome
that size in the media room would be ridiculous though
nothing better than cheering on your chosen horse or team to win, when it appears similar in size to you!
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@antipodean said in Smart TVs:
@antipodean said in Smart TVs:
I have a Samsung and I'm not impressed with their bloatware. All I want is a 4K 10 bit HDR screen with HDMI and LAN inputs. The ability to flash it would be a bonus.
Do you actually use it? My Samsung TV is just the screen I watch stuff on - I'll occasionally watch Stan Sport on it when I want to flick easily between Stan and Kayo.
There's a bunch of unnecessary crap which takes up memory and CPU. That's before raising concerns about the data it sends to third parties. Hence another reason why I run pi-hole.
Haha, fair enough, I've never noticed any of that impacting my viewing experience so doesn't bother me too much.
As for data, I'm pretty much resigned to the fact every piece of tech I own is doing the same. Aside from screwing with my Youtube recommendations it doesn't appear to negatively impact me ... yet.
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@billy-tell said in Smart TVs:
Personally I’m very happy with our LG CX.
My last 2 or 3 tvs have been LG's.
Never had a problem with any of them, other then finding out they arent water resistant (fatal flaw)As said above most come with a range of preset apps, Netflix, Disney + etc.
Those are nice but id def recommend getting something like Apple TV. Have been using that for years as well, very easy to navigate even if your not a Apple user. Not cheap of course and it comes with a tiny remote that YOUR forever losing..I read somewhere ages ago that LG supplies other brands with their screens anyway.
Yeah I got apple tv too. At first I was like why did I buy that when the tv has its own apps but the Apple TV is infinitely better.
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@billy-tell said in Smart TVs:
@billy-tell said in Smart TVs:
Personally I’m very happy with our LG CX.
My last 2 or 3 tvs have been LG's.
Never had a problem with any of them, other then finding out they arent water resistant (fatal flaw)As said above most come with a range of preset apps, Netflix, Disney + etc.
Those are nice but id def recommend getting something like Apple TV. Have been using that for years as well, very easy to navigate even if your not a Apple user. Not cheap of course and it comes with a tiny remote that YOUR forever losing..I read somewhere ages ago that LG supplies other brands with their screens anyway.
Yeah I got apple tv too. At first I was like why did I buy that when the tv has its own apps but the Apple TV is infinitely better.
Amazon FireStick is another good option and very cheap. Loads of apps, updates itself (and apps). You can cast to it with a workaround app if you really want and like AppleTV can buy stuff to watch that isn't on subscriber apps.
As described earlier also has the advantage of setting up a 'fake' Amazon account in say the UK, downloading UK FTA apps the for a small cost of a third party VPN (I use StreamLocator app $7/month) you have access to all BBC, ITV, the massive catalogue on 4 and can change country on Netflix/Disney to access bigger libraries. -
Yes the Q90A will have a slightly nicer picture with better blacks but fuck that's a lot to pay for something you will hardly notice.
Particularly once you get it home and no longer have it side by side with a more expensive model.
The Sony 55 I bought when I moved into our current house (Dec 13) was still a good panel and I only changed to get 4K.
The Sonos Soundbar and Sub are still top notch
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Yeah got a 4k 50" Sony for around 500 squid I think. It's got android TV so not worried about apps going out of date really. Great picture and a breeze to use flicking between apps, as well as signing into them as it's logged into my Google account.
Highly recommend if you want to ignore people saying that's a security risk.
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@roninwc I don't think Samsung make OLED panels in TV sizes. Their QLED TVs aren't OLEDs. They don't have any OLED TVs on their website either.
As far as I know if you want an OLED TV you're getting an LG panel.
Is Samsung finally making an OLED TV? Not so fast
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whats the difference between a QLED and OLED?
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@roninwc I don't think Samsung make OLED panels in TV sizes. Their QLED TVs aren't OLEDs. They don't have any OLED TVs on their website either.
As far as I know if you want an OLED TV you're getting an LG panel.
Is Samsung finally making an OLED TV? Not so fast
Rumors suggest Samsung is buying millions of LG OLED panels, but Samsung OLED TVs may not be a sure thing.
Samsung make the QLED which is just a slightly different version of the OLED.
And Samsung make their own but because any OLED still uses an LCD panel as a part of the construction, they don't make the whole panel.
All that Quantum Dot stuff is their own as well. Just a refinement of the QLED/OLED.
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@kiwiwomble said in Smart TVs:
whats the difference between a QLED and OLED?
QLED is a Samsung tech.
OLED is fundamentally different to LED while QLED is 'enhanced' LED.
Samsung claims that OLED has a tendency over time to burn in images eg a corner logo if you watch one channel all the time.
QLED relies on a backlight while OLED pixels emit their own light and have better viewing angles.
Some side by side reviewers will say OLED wins out every time probably because not all QLED TVs are the same quality.
If your aim is best picture quality then look for a TV with Dolby Vision. A 'cheap' TV with DV will look better than an expensive one without.
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@roninwc I don't think Samsung make OLED panels in TV sizes. Their QLED TVs aren't OLEDs. They don't have any OLED TVs on their website either.
As far as I know if you want an OLED TV you're getting an LG panel.
Is Samsung finally making an OLED TV? Not so fast
Rumors suggest Samsung is buying millions of LG OLED panels, but Samsung OLED TVs may not be a sure thing.
Samsung make the QLED which is just a slightly different version of the OLED.
And Samsung make their own but because any OLED still uses an LCD panel as a part of the construction, they don't make the whole panel.
All that Quantum Dot stuff is their own as well. Just a refinement of the QLED/OLED.
I don't think that's right.
OLED is a self-emissive new technology in its own right - the pixels themselves produce the light and there is no backlight. That means that the individual pixels can be turned off altogether, producing a "true black".
QLED is a (far) better version of traditional LCD technology, with a coloured filter in front of a backlight, with the Q ("Quantum") part referring to the fineness of the filter. Samsung have upgraded it to Neo QLED which means they are using more, smaller mini-LEDs in the backlight to give greater control over the light that passes through the filter, but there is still a backlight. The pixels are not self-emissive and a black is dependent on turning off the backlight at the right location, so there is potential for bleed from adjacent LEDs, meaning getting an absolute black is more difficult.
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have to say, to a layman when it comes to marketing and tv apparently...using the term OLED for what seems to be quite a different approach...we'll it seems like theyre underselling themselves
I know id always assumed it was just just the never version of my current LED tv
