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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300341025/all-blacks-forwards-coach-john-plumtree-its-time-for-us-to-dominate-physically

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    have we been choosing not too up until now?

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    @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:

    have we been choosing not too up until now?

    We were a bit too "finesse" in Japan

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    @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300341025/all-blacks-forwards-coach-john-plumtree-its-time-for-us-to-dominate-physically

    Wasn't that the message for 2020?

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    @antipodean yes.

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    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

    @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300341025/all-blacks-forwards-coach-john-plumtree-its-time-for-us-to-dominate-physically

    Wasn't that the message for 2020?

    it should be the message every fucking year for fuck's sake!! it's rugby 101 at every fucking level.

    it shows how far standards have slipped that it needs to be spelled out by the guys who are supposed to be the best in the world.

    it also shows how things are a cycle. Seems like it's 2004 all over again (without the backline talent).

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    I don't want to sound defeatist so how about a happy remark: Foster's smile as he photobombs Blackadder reminds me of the people who get a cushy job and realize nobody else has triggered yet that the job is beyond them...
    But that dominating forward malarky, we've got good depth in loosies but they're young and relatively green, the locks are the same we had for years, and the props are arguably no improvement on the recent past. So I'm not sure where this newfound forward dominance will spring from, it is not as if overseas teams have gone backwards in this area (with the honourable exception of Australia).

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    So anyone got the heads up on where we can watch in the UK?

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    @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300341025/all-blacks-forwards-coach-john-plumtree-its-time-for-us-to-dominate-physically

    It’s time to

    Put 15 players on the park
    Not throw the ball forward or knock it on
    Make our tackles
    Secure possession
    Score more points than the opposition

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    @billy-tell how can you do all that without leaving it all out on the park tho

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    @billy-tell said in All Blacks 2021:

    Score more points than the opposition

    That's all you needed to say.

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    Dominate physically eh. I guess that makes Akira a certainty at 6. Unless it was a throwaway useless remark.

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    @frank said in All Blacks 2021:

    Dominate physically eh. I guess that makes Akira a certainty at 6. Unless it was a throwaway useless remark.

    I feel like they will go for Frizzel, purely down to his "vast experience" and the loss of caps elsewhere, with Ardie the only experienced loosie. Prepare for meltdown.

    It's funny, all my Canes mates talk about Akira being a waste of space and not having done anything in black since his "debut" in 2017 and it's impossible to convince them otherwise. Then you come on here and it swings the other way.

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

    @billy-tell said in All Blacks 2021:

    Score more points than the opposition

    That's all you needed to say.

    No it’s not…this place can still be a war ground even after a win!

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    @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

    @billy-tell said in All Blacks 2021:

    Score more points than the opposition

    That's all you needed to say.

    No it’s not…this place can still be a war ground even after a win!

    The Fern has definitely gone through some cycles where winning was not enough. It had to be by 10 or more, or even 20 or more. The odd “we should put 50 on them” was said with a sarcastic ‘haha’ after it, but we know there was a seriousness to it also.

    Scoring more points than the opposition has never been enough, because it had to be done in a certain way or with errorless rugby or with tries and not penalties, let alone those ‘cop out’ drop goals.

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    @sparky that's probably my favourite post you E ever made.

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    @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

    So anyone got the heads up on where we can watch in the UK?

    Bump

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