Coronavirus - Australia
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@nostrildamus said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
just so we are abundantly clear on just how fucking serious this Delta Force variant is
NSW yesterday conducted 59,000 tests and found 18 cases
In the last week they have done 305,000 tests for 118 cases
There are 5 people in hospital, 1 is in ICUCurrently, across the country, there are 54 people in hospital with Covid, of which 47 are in Qld/NT because of their particular policies.
In Qld, the Chook is talking lockdowns on the back of 3 community cases.
Old mate from Sydney that had a fat old time in Wellington managed to infect fucking no body.
The chook? You mean the Premier with the well-developed wattle?
ah, yes?
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
just so we are abundantly clear on just how fucking serious this Delta Force variant is
NSW yesterday conducted 59,000 tests and found 18 cases
In the last week they have done 305,000 tests for 118 cases
There are 5 people in hospital, 1 is in ICUCurrently, across the country, there are 54 people in hospital with Covid, of which 47 are in Qld/NT because of their particular policies.
In Qld, the Chook is talking lockdowns on the back of 3 community cases.
Old mate from Sydney that had a fat old time in Wellington managed to infect fucking no body.
all fair enough but lets also not forget thats how little its spread with various actions being taken, we cant accurately say what those numbers would be without any restrictions
We could just as easily say exactly the same thing but as a good news story, look at the effect all these restrictions is having on the spread
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@act-crusader said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@nostrildamus said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@nta said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@rotated said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@nta said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@rotated said in Coronavirus - Australia:
For someone who is lauded for being a political genius Morrison
Who would say such a thing? 😮
It would be churlish to not look at his preselection, ascent to the treasury, then the Prime Ministership and then 2019 election and not conclude that he is smarter than the average bear when it comes to things.
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DefineDefinitely cunning.And the fact Dutton can't count.
I think he could count but Morrison's allies pretended to be Dutton allies so he could step in when Turnbull fell on his silver sword then the allies switched quietly back from Dutton with the moderates scampering to apparent safety (Morrison).
If you check out how Morrison became a Liberal MP there is a pattern..As has already been said in this thread, he would’ve taken Bradfield.
Morrison? He's no Leonard Cohen.
And I don't think I can find the post in the thread without extensive sleuthing..
Turnbull:
Also Turnbull didn’t fall on his sword, that’s why he thinks he should still be PM.
I should have " " the sword as it was a reference to the actual headlines at the time saying he should (Ray Hadley). Google is your friend.
Or you might consider this https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/aug/24/turnbulls-rise-was-inevitable-but-a-devils-deal-meant-so-too-was-his-fall
"Some Liberal MPs reckon Turnbull’s conscience has never been at ease with his “knifing” of a sitting PM – that he’s never quite managed to out that damned spot. Perhaps. But he or she who lives by the sword of challenge also dies that way. Gillard and Rudd surely taught Turnbull that. In that, he must’ve known this is how it would end."
Well well well. I am sure Malcolm takes full responsibility. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/mar/28/malcolm-turnbull-blames-liberal-rightwing-insurgency-for-ousting-him-as-pm
Oh. Well. At least he took resposibility for creating the Guardian Australia, and Tony Abbott said he invented the internet in Australia
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@kiwiwomble said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
just so we are abundantly clear on just how fucking serious this Delta Force variant is
NSW yesterday conducted 59,000 tests and found 18 cases
In the last week they have done 305,000 tests for 118 cases
There are 5 people in hospital, 1 is in ICUCurrently, across the country, there are 54 people in hospital with Covid, of which 47 are in Qld/NT because of their particular policies.
In Qld, the Chook is talking lockdowns on the back of 3 community cases.
Old mate from Sydney that had a fat old time in Wellington managed to infect fucking no body.
all fair enough but lets also not forget thats how little its spread with various actions being taken, we cant accurately say what those numbers would be without any restrictions
We could simply look at the amount of people who have or believe they've been in the areas of concern, and then contrast the reported contagiousness and the short period the lockdowns have been in effect.
We've had 130 locally acquired cases reported since 16 June 2021. Sydney CBD and three other LGAs were placed in lockdown three days ago. So why wasn't the variant running rampant between those dates?
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@kiwiwomble said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
just so we are abundantly clear on just how fucking serious this Delta Force variant is
NSW yesterday conducted 59,000 tests and found 18 cases
In the last week they have done 305,000 tests for 118 cases
There are 5 people in hospital, 1 is in ICUCurrently, across the country, there are 54 people in hospital with Covid, of which 47 are in Qld/NT because of their particular policies.
In Qld, the Chook is talking lockdowns on the back of 3 community cases.
Old mate from Sydney that had a fat old time in Wellington managed to infect fucking no body.
all fair enough but lets also not forget thats how little its spread with various actions being taken, we cant accurately say what those numbers would be without any restrictions
We could simply look at the amount of people who have or believe they've been in the areas of concern, and then contrast the reported contagiousness and the short period the lockdowns have been in effect.
We've had 130 locally acquired cases reported since 16 June 2021. Sydney CBD and three other LGAs were placed in lockdown three days ago. So why wasn't the variant running rampant between those dates?
yeah, this is pretty much my thoughts. Ever time this comes up we are told that the carrier has been out and about for ages, and been to a heap of places. And yet the cases never take off, and everyone involved in the lockdown takes credit.
Everyone get frikken vaccinated so this madness can fucking stop!
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oh god the lolz
that mine worker that tested positive and put the shits up everyone and got everyone locked down at the mine? He travelled to the NT via Brisbane. Qld health stuck him in hotel quarantine
WHERE HE CAUGHT COVID THAT HE THNE SPREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A healthy man, put in to quarantine because of a state government's policy around people from a certain part of the country, fucking cause a heap of this!!
I can't be the only one to find that infuriating in its stupidity
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
oh god the lolz
that mine worker that tested positive and put the shits up everyone and got everyone locked down at the mine? He travelled to the NT via Brisbane. Qld health stuck him in hotel quarantine
WHERE HE CAUGHT COVID THAT HE THNE SPREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A healthy man, put in to quarantine because of a state government's policy around people from a certain part of the country, fucking cause a heap of this!!
I can't be the only one to find that infuriating in its stupidity
Crazy times we're living in
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
oh god the lolz
that mine worker that tested positive and put the shits up everyone and got everyone locked down at the mine? He travelled to the NT via Brisbane. Qld health stuck him in hotel quarantine
WHERE HE CAUGHT COVID THAT HE THNE SPREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A healthy man, put in to quarantine because of a state government's policy around people from a certain part of the country, fucking cause a heap of this!!
I can't be the only one to find that infuriating in its stupidity
This is why my wife won’t go back to NZ right now - we are just as likely to catch COVID in quarantine there.
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@gt12 said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
oh god the lolz
that mine worker that tested positive and put the shits up everyone and got everyone locked down at the mine? He travelled to the NT via Brisbane. Qld health stuck him in hotel quarantine
WHERE HE CAUGHT COVID THAT HE THNE SPREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A healthy man, put in to quarantine because of a state government's policy around people from a certain part of the country, fucking cause a heap of this!!
I can't be the only one to find that infuriating in its stupidity
This is why my wife won’t go back to NZ right now - we are just as likely to catch COVID in quarantine there.
Or on the plane 🤷♂️
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@mariner4life it's too much!
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Perth & Peel region in 4 day lockdown, because of 3 cases.
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and a big welcome to parts of QLD that have also joined us in lockdown..wow
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@bayimports said in Coronavirus - Australia:
and a big welcome to parts of QLD that have also joined us in lockdown..wow
Based on two community cases. It's a competition for which State leader is the most insane.
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@antipodean I've got a nomination. SA.
No cases for literally months.
New restrictions for 4 days:
Masks at hospitals and nursing homes
Private gatherings capped at 150 ( previously unlimited)
No buffets
No dancing or singing
Drinking sitting down
No outside dining.Ok, not too bad given the current environment, but;
How do you measure the effectiveness of this legislation?
After 4 days, no covid. What have you learned?
After 4 days, some covid. What have you learned?Restrictions with no cases to begin with and no outcome in mind.🤔
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i can get him head around masks just being a thing for hospitals and nursing homes...just in general, those people are all sick to start with
...the no outside dining is weird, i thought we started dining outside because it was better than inside for social distancing and airflow and stuff
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Only one premier is treating you like an adult
Gladys Berejiklian wants to have a conversation about living with COVID-19. Daniel Andrews and Annastacia Palaszczuk want the international borders shut even tighter.Aaron PatrickSenior correspondent
Jun 29, 2021 – 2.42pmWinter’s NSW-Victoria pandemic role reversal appears to have done what politics couldn’t: accelerate one of the world’s slowest vaccination programs.
But the philosophical perspectives of the two most powerful political leaders in terms of influence over Australians’ COVID-19 lives hasn’t changed.
While the NSW government failed this time to live up to its reputation of being able to preserve life and liberty, at least it is treating the state like an adult. David Rowe
On Tuesday morning, Victoria’s Premier Daniel Andrews talked darkly about being compelled to lockdown his traumatised state for a fifth time if the delta COVID-19 variant weaseled its way in.
In Sydney, where the fight against delta is not yet won or lost, Premier Gladys Berejiklian offered something business leaders and many others are desperate for from their leaders: hope.
Instead of joining Andrews and Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk in undermining public support for a quarantine program that has safely brought home more than 200,000 Australian citizens and permanent residents, Berejiklian urged society to begin thinking and talking about how to manage the coronavirus once most people are vaccinated.
“COVID-19 might be around for a long time,” she said. “You do need to look at what life looks like [after the current outbreak] because what we want to do is to prevent ever having to go into lockdown ever again.”
Berejiklian didn’t explicitly suggest, unlike notable academic economist Richard Holden on Monday, that health authorities should cease trying to stop COVID-19 circulating once a form a herd immunity is reached.
But she said NSW could get to what she called “COVID normal” after some 80 per cent of the population was vaccinated.
They sound like similar positions, and would mark a seminal development in Australian pandemic policy. International borders could open and lockdowns would presumably cease. People would die, too, because the vaccines aren’t perfect.
The easiest way for any premier to deflect blame
Andrews and Palaszczuk also want their citizens vaccinated as quickly as possible. But rather than prepare the public for a truce with the virus, the Labor leaders on Tuesday played to anti-Canberra sentiment – the easiest way for any premier to deflect blame.Andrews, challenged by ABC radio journalist Virginia Trioli, said hotels should not be used to shelter people from overseas, a self-serving position given the disastrous failure of Victoria’s quarantine system last year.
“Compare a lockdown of a whole city, or a whole state, and the pain of that versus halving or reducing by 75 per cent or 80 per cent the number of people coming back through hotel quarantine,” he said. “In my judgment, there is no comparison.”
On Tuesday, in response to two extra community infections, Palaszczuk shut part of her state for three days – a measure NSW chief health officer Kerry Chant earlier said wasn’t useful for stop the virus’s spread.
Palaszczuk pushed the federal government to tighten the almost-sealed international borders too, complaining the state of five million can’t cope with an extra 150 people a day.
“We need a massive reduction in overseas arrivals,” she said. “The reason why we’re having lockdowns in major cities is because the overseas arrivals are bringing the virus here. They’re going to hotels and all of our staff are having to deal with it.”
In politics, there are considered two ways to motivate voters: fear or hope. Until Australians are assured by political leaders that life and the coronavirus can co-exist, support for draconian public heath restrictions will remain high.
While the NSW government failed this time to live up to its reputation of being able to preserve life and liberty, at least it is treating the state like an adult.
There are no horror stories, people are being encouraged to use common sense and there are the hints the unofficial eradication policy should end.
Berejiklian has shown through the pandemic that she has strong leadership qualities. On Tuesday another was on display: a reluctance to publicly blame others.
“We very much feel we are in control of what is happening,” she said.
Aaron Patrick is the senior correspondent. He writes about politics and business. Connect with Aaron on Twitter. Email Aaron at apatrick@afr.com
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I really feel sorry for you guys.
I thought our mob were imbecilic amateurs but compared with your mob they're Nobel Prize Winners.
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@mikethesnow said in Coronavirus - Australia:
I really feel sorry for you guys.
I thought our mob were imbecilic amateurs but compared with your mob they're Nobel Prize Winners.
Not sure I agree with that. The decision has ben made for zero covid. If you want to maintain zero covid you have no choice other than to do city / state lockdowns every single time you have one single case. I'd say they are managing the situation perfectly for zero covid.