Coronavirus - Australia
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
oh god the lolz
that mine worker that tested positive and put the shits up everyone and got everyone locked down at the mine? He travelled to the NT via Brisbane. Qld health stuck him in hotel quarantine
WHERE HE CAUGHT COVID THAT HE THNE SPREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A healthy man, put in to quarantine because of a state government's policy around people from a certain part of the country, fucking cause a heap of this!!
I can't be the only one to find that infuriating in its stupidity
This is why my wife won’t go back to NZ right now - we are just as likely to catch COVID in quarantine there.
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@gt12 said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
oh god the lolz
that mine worker that tested positive and put the shits up everyone and got everyone locked down at the mine? He travelled to the NT via Brisbane. Qld health stuck him in hotel quarantine
WHERE HE CAUGHT COVID THAT HE THNE SPREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A healthy man, put in to quarantine because of a state government's policy around people from a certain part of the country, fucking cause a heap of this!!
I can't be the only one to find that infuriating in its stupidity
This is why my wife won’t go back to NZ right now - we are just as likely to catch COVID in quarantine there.
Or on the plane 🤷♂️
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@mariner4life it's too much!
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Perth & Peel region in 4 day lockdown, because of 3 cases.
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and a big welcome to parts of QLD that have also joined us in lockdown..wow
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@bayimports said in Coronavirus - Australia:
and a big welcome to parts of QLD that have also joined us in lockdown..wow
Based on two community cases. It's a competition for which State leader is the most insane.
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@antipodean I've got a nomination. SA.
No cases for literally months.
New restrictions for 4 days:
Masks at hospitals and nursing homes
Private gatherings capped at 150 ( previously unlimited)
No buffets
No dancing or singing
Drinking sitting down
No outside dining.Ok, not too bad given the current environment, but;
How do you measure the effectiveness of this legislation?
After 4 days, no covid. What have you learned?
After 4 days, some covid. What have you learned?Restrictions with no cases to begin with and no outcome in mind.🤔
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i can get him head around masks just being a thing for hospitals and nursing homes...just in general, those people are all sick to start with
...the no outside dining is weird, i thought we started dining outside because it was better than inside for social distancing and airflow and stuff
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Only one premier is treating you like an adult
Gladys Berejiklian wants to have a conversation about living with COVID-19. Daniel Andrews and Annastacia Palaszczuk want the international borders shut even tighter.Aaron PatrickSenior correspondent
Jun 29, 2021 – 2.42pmWinter’s NSW-Victoria pandemic role reversal appears to have done what politics couldn’t: accelerate one of the world’s slowest vaccination programs.
But the philosophical perspectives of the two most powerful political leaders in terms of influence over Australians’ COVID-19 lives hasn’t changed.
While the NSW government failed this time to live up to its reputation of being able to preserve life and liberty, at least it is treating the state like an adult. David Rowe
On Tuesday morning, Victoria’s Premier Daniel Andrews talked darkly about being compelled to lockdown his traumatised state for a fifth time if the delta COVID-19 variant weaseled its way in.
In Sydney, where the fight against delta is not yet won or lost, Premier Gladys Berejiklian offered something business leaders and many others are desperate for from their leaders: hope.
Instead of joining Andrews and Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk in undermining public support for a quarantine program that has safely brought home more than 200,000 Australian citizens and permanent residents, Berejiklian urged society to begin thinking and talking about how to manage the coronavirus once most people are vaccinated.
“COVID-19 might be around for a long time,” she said. “You do need to look at what life looks like [after the current outbreak] because what we want to do is to prevent ever having to go into lockdown ever again.”
Berejiklian didn’t explicitly suggest, unlike notable academic economist Richard Holden on Monday, that health authorities should cease trying to stop COVID-19 circulating once a form a herd immunity is reached.
But she said NSW could get to what she called “COVID normal” after some 80 per cent of the population was vaccinated.
They sound like similar positions, and would mark a seminal development in Australian pandemic policy. International borders could open and lockdowns would presumably cease. People would die, too, because the vaccines aren’t perfect.
The easiest way for any premier to deflect blame
Andrews and Palaszczuk also want their citizens vaccinated as quickly as possible. But rather than prepare the public for a truce with the virus, the Labor leaders on Tuesday played to anti-Canberra sentiment – the easiest way for any premier to deflect blame.Andrews, challenged by ABC radio journalist Virginia Trioli, said hotels should not be used to shelter people from overseas, a self-serving position given the disastrous failure of Victoria’s quarantine system last year.
“Compare a lockdown of a whole city, or a whole state, and the pain of that versus halving or reducing by 75 per cent or 80 per cent the number of people coming back through hotel quarantine,” he said. “In my judgment, there is no comparison.”
On Tuesday, in response to two extra community infections, Palaszczuk shut part of her state for three days – a measure NSW chief health officer Kerry Chant earlier said wasn’t useful for stop the virus’s spread.
Palaszczuk pushed the federal government to tighten the almost-sealed international borders too, complaining the state of five million can’t cope with an extra 150 people a day.
“We need a massive reduction in overseas arrivals,” she said. “The reason why we’re having lockdowns in major cities is because the overseas arrivals are bringing the virus here. They’re going to hotels and all of our staff are having to deal with it.”
In politics, there are considered two ways to motivate voters: fear or hope. Until Australians are assured by political leaders that life and the coronavirus can co-exist, support for draconian public heath restrictions will remain high.
While the NSW government failed this time to live up to its reputation of being able to preserve life and liberty, at least it is treating the state like an adult.
There are no horror stories, people are being encouraged to use common sense and there are the hints the unofficial eradication policy should end.
Berejiklian has shown through the pandemic that she has strong leadership qualities. On Tuesday another was on display: a reluctance to publicly blame others.
“We very much feel we are in control of what is happening,” she said.
Aaron Patrick is the senior correspondent. He writes about politics and business. Connect with Aaron on Twitter. Email Aaron at apatrick@afr.com
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I really feel sorry for you guys.
I thought our mob were imbecilic amateurs but compared with your mob they're Nobel Prize Winners.
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@mikethesnow said in Coronavirus - Australia:
I really feel sorry for you guys.
I thought our mob were imbecilic amateurs but compared with your mob they're Nobel Prize Winners.
Not sure I agree with that. The decision has ben made for zero covid. If you want to maintain zero covid you have no choice other than to do city / state lockdowns every single time you have one single case. I'd say they are managing the situation perfectly for zero covid.
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@kiwiwomble said in Coronavirus - Australia:
i can get him head around masks just being a thing for hospitals and nursing homes...just in general, those people are all sick to start with
...the no outside dining is weird, i thought we started dining outside because it was better than inside for social distancing and airflow and stuff
Agree mate except for this scenario:
Restrictions for 4 days and no further covid.
What, exactly has been achieved?
Other than unnecessary loss of commerce, earnings and customers. Anxiety and disenfranchising all residents (nobody i speak to thinks it's a good idea).Could be the dumbest covid move ever: mini lockdown for zero cases after 5 months of zero cases🤔
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@majorrage said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@mikethesnow said in Coronavirus - Australia:
I really feel sorry for you guys.
I thought our mob were imbecilic amateurs but compared with your mob they're Nobel Prize Winners.
Not sure I agree with that. The decision has ben made for zero covid. If you want to maintain zero covid you have no choice other than to do city / state lockdowns every single time you have one single case. I'd say they are managing the situation perfectly for zero covid.
Zero Covid is not a long term strategy
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@siam @MajorRage Australia is not officially targeting zero covid, has never been. Certain State officials maybe, but never an Federal goal.
We are just flattening the curve!
Really fucking flattening it.
Did you guys know we have someone in ICU right now? A person!!!
Just the 1 mind, but still, can't be too careful.
I feel like I've beaten this drum too many times, I can't do it again. At some point the politicians will have to be honest with the public and admit that we have to live with this thing. But that day hasn't come yet.
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@siam @MajorRage Australia is not officially targeting zero covid, has never been. Certain State officials maybe, but never an Federal goal.
We are just flattening the curve!
Really fucking flattening it.
Did you guys know we have someone in ICU right now? A person!!!
Just the 1 mind, but still, can't be too careful.
I feel like I've beaten this drum too many times, I can't do it again. At some point the politicians will have to be honest with the puband admit that we have to live with this thing. But that day hasn't come yet.
I hate to be the one to break the news to you, but Australia is clearly officially targeting zero covid.
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@majorrage we can debate your assertion in person over a beer, in 2024.
That's optimistic.
Look on the bright side - Aus is a great place to live, visit, holiday and relax. Bit shit for ski'ing but such is life.
Blighty ... we need planes man, we need our overseas holidays!!!
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@majorrage said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@majorrage we can debate your assertion in person over a beer, in 2024.
That's optimistic.
Look on the bright side - Aus is a great place to live, visit, holiday and relax. Bit shit for ski'ing but such is life.
Blighty ... we need planes man, we need our overseas holidays!!!
Blighty has shit skiing too