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@crucial Managed to read it all and it seems familiar...as in that I know the event.
As a crash. Complete fuck up on every level. The Swiss cheese, James Reason end result of causation. What a mess, everybody screwed that up.
After reading that I agree. Not a discussion I can have with my mate of course. Would be interested on his views on the findings, especially around the assumption that the spray load was understated on purpose.
There does always seem to be an element added around operator actions to remove some blame from certifiers etc but it is notable that the only actions taken were in regard to tightening up the certification process after modification.Edit: just thought about it and I wouldn't be at all surprised if he hasn't read the report. He flies himself (at least did) and losing two brothers (the second just after his mother died) has possibly made him not want to go down that path. It wouldn't be a nice read.
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especially around the assumption that the spray load was understated on purpose.
Weight and balance just makes aircraft uncontrollable. That is a serious fuck up and you really shouldn't be able to get it wrong in terms of weight. Really simple stuff.
I've had it, insecure load in a Cessna 206, and believe it or not, it was a huge pig that just slid all the way to the back. Stalled the aircraft, which actually saved me. Wing dropped. A sort of spiral dive resulted. Nose went down, pig slid forward again, balance restored. Pig cage was then tied to my seat. Achieving that wasn't easy. The thing was huge too.
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Edit: just thought about it and I wouldn't be at all surprised if he hasn't read the report. He flies himself (at least did) and losing two brothers (the second just after his mother died) has possibly made him not want to go down that path. It wouldn't be a nice read.
Re this, I've lost too many mates. Brothers would be just awful.
Funny thing is if flying is in your blood it doesn't go away. Dead mates and family won't change it. Analysing what happened probably wouldn't be great though. Ouch.
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especially around the assumption that the spray load was understated on purpose.
Weight and balance just makes aircraft uncontrollable. That is a serious fuck up and you really shouldn't be able to get it wrong in terms of weight. Really simple stuff.
I've had it, insecure load in a Cessna 206, and believe it or not, it was a huge pig that just slid all the way to the back. Stalled the aircraft, which actually saved me. Wing dropped. A sort of spiral dive resulted. Nose went down, pig slid forward again, balance restored. Pig cage was then tied to my seat. Achieving that wasn't easy. The thing was huge too.
Not a nice way to talk about your passengers, even if they are fat.
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@snowy said in [Planes](/post/596955
Preferably PT6 in a fixed wing.King Air 200 will do nicely 👌🏻
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@r-l said in Planes:
If I wasn't a broken record about this stuff I'd tell you about the crocodile too.
You get quite SNAPPY about being a broken record don't you...
And the story sounds cool but leave the defecation out please, pilots uniform/crocodile dundee vibes don't need to be ruined.
hahaha. You do Dad jokes as well. Snappy.
It wasn't literal, shitting myself that is. Just that a crocodile lose in the back of an aeroplane that you are flying is a bit frightening. Had to move one to the farm in Lae.
After it shagged itself senseless it probably ended up as a pair of shoes.
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especially around the assumption that the spray load was understated on purpose.
Weight and balance just makes aircraft uncontrollable. That is a serious fuck up and you really shouldn't be able to get it wrong in terms of weight. Really simple stuff.
I've had it, insecure load in a Cessna 206, and believe it or not, it was a huge pig that just slid all the way to the back. Stalled the aircraft, which actually saved me. Wing dropped. A sort of spiral dive resulted. Nose went down, pig slid forward again, balance restored. Pig cage was then tied to my seat. Achieving that wasn't easy. The thing was huge too.
The best American ever to exist, Lt Col Tom 'Moses' Bouley was killed in his unbalanced F15- so yeah important stuff
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Parallel parking:
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@snowy Had the privilege on ZS-LFU a few times. Pure joy
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@mantissanet said in Planes:
@snowy Had the privilege on ZS-LFU a few times. Pure joy
A King Air over SA. Doesn't get much better.
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@snowy I laugh about how flying to the Barrier they weigh you and all your luggage. That’s fine
So why didn’t they weigh the fucking staffy that someone Brough with them.
Not a crocodile or pig but things got interesting when the poor bloody mutt got stressed during take off and decided to jump onto the pilots lap
Love the barrier. The airlines flying there not so much. I guess everyone has to learn on the job to a certain extent but even I could tell the difference between Dairy Flat and the northern motorway
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No matter how many times I see this I still love it
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@paekakboyz yeah right
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