Coronavirus - Australia
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@kiwiwomble all things considered, country has done ok without it for 18 months...but I do think alot are sick of her shit...
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That lockdown has ruined my RC travel hopes and a niece's skiing holiday in Queenstown. Considering she's a Qld'r, she's not impressed.
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - Australia:
So is it a supply issue, or the fact that we aren't vaxxing fast enough, or a bit of both? I remember when Ashley said we had enough PPE, remember how that turned out...
well, here in Australia we have a supply issue, and capacity issue, and then the 3rd issue, people don't want the vaccine that is most readily available, and want to wait for the other one, because they are morons who do no understand risk.
actually, that's not fair. They are morons who have been fed some appalling messaging, much of it either politically motivated, or sensationalism-for-clicks motivated, that talked up the risk of blood clots that effectively killed AZ dead in many people's eyes. Now, no amount of professionals trying to explain and compare/contrast the risks will budge them.
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@mariner4life wife had AZ. I had Pfizer.
Let the games begin...
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
actually, that's not fair. They are morons who have been fed some appalling messaging, much of it either politically motivated, or sensationalism-for-clicks motivated, that talked up the risk of blood clots that effectively killed AZ dead in many people's eyes. Now, no amount of professionals trying to explain and compare/contrast the risks will budge them.
I still dont think they are necessarily morons ( a lot are overly trusting of the media, other leaders etc), but unfortunately this is the very sad reflection of a lot of people right now..
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I wonder how many accidentally pronounce Pfizer as Fizzer..
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this new suspension of the bubble is it both ways? Have only read about Aust-NZ being suspended for 8 weeks, not the other way.
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@canefan Don't know about OZ. Until this week NZ definitely had a supply issue but their are also embarrassing reports of GP's and pharmacists ready to go but haven't been accredited yet. So now have supply but not enough people to administer
I think this breakout has meant Oz is throwing way more resources at vax at the moment.
The gap between Oz and NZ in full doses is has really closed up now. I wonder if that was due to Oz having lots of first round AZ early on that hit their 12 week second dose, or if there was a lack of supply in NZ which slowed the whole lot, or neither.
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@kiwiwomble said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@frank you're worried she's going to turn Nz into North Korea? too much of the economy is based on tourism for this to be kept up past when it is absolutely needed surely
No, not North Korea, just that she will be overly cautious and fuck my holiday up.
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@frank said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@kiwiwomble said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@frank you're worried she's going to turn Nz into North Korea? too much of the economy is based on tourism for this to be kept up past when it is absolutely needed surely
No. not North Korea, just that she will be overly cautious and fuck my holiday up.
Gladys fucked mine up by being underly cautious.
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@kiwiwomble said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@kiwiwomble said in Coronavirus - Australia:
8 week bubble pause....bugger
Downvote!
we're phycing ourselves up to call QANTAS.....
Flight attendant positive on flight to Hervey Bay
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
well, the cancellation on my amazing but expensive Mt Maunganui accommodation for Christmas is the end of October. 8 week pause (at this stage) takes me to the end of September.
i was 90% confident i was going a month ago. Now i am 50/50
I think, given my two trips to Sydney, and Christmas, i just need to stop planning things.
someone want to remind me how great we've got it again?
Cancelled Jr's 18th birthday trip to Sydney first weekend in Sept.
Changed to Brisbane. Bet Anna applies the lock down.
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@mariner4life you are still breathing right
But yeah, Aus & NZ are far too far down this path now that they have to stay the course until they vaccinate everyone and then look at opening to the world!
the pessimistic part of me says, even with teh vaccine, when (if) we open up, there are going to be a bunch of cases, and a bunch of people are going to die.
and that will be sad on two fronts. sad that people have died. and sad we have put ourselves through this for not much tangible benefit.
i hope i am very wrong.
First bold: I'd suggest "realistic"
Second bold: I'll disagree. I reckon we've had close to a normal life in NZ and Aus ( particularly QLD ... to date... ), and opening up suggests decent proportion vaxxed and therefore more protected.
18 months ago I was in (I'm guessing) the 5% mortality band. Now I'm vaxxed I'm guessing my risk is way way lower.
And at least I can post this without having to use a device ...
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@booboo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@mariner4life you are still breathing right
But yeah, Aus & NZ are far too far down this path now that they have to stay the course until they vaccinate everyone and then look at opening to the world!
the pessimistic part of me says, even with teh vaccine, when (if) we open up, there are going to be a bunch of cases, and a bunch of people are going to die.
and that will be sad on two fronts. sad that people have died. and sad we have put ourselves through this for not much tangible benefit.
i hope i am very wrong.
First bold: I'd suggest "realistic"
Second bold: I'll disagree. I reckon we've had close to a normal life in NZ and Aus ( particularly QLD ... to date... ), and opening up suggests decent proportion vaxxed and therefore more protected.
18 months ago I was in (I'm guessing) the 5% mortality band. Now I'm vaxxed I'm guessing my risk is way way lower.
And at least I can post this without having to use a device ...
Compared to much of the rest of the world, sometimes we don't know how lucky we are
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@mariner4life both self and Mrs Boo had AZ. Both still alive. That's 0% mortality by my calcs.
Mind you her second was this morning .... time to be proven wrong ... I'll check in in the morning.
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@nostrildamus said in Coronavirus - Australia:
this new suspension of the bubble is it both ways? Have only read about Aust-NZ being suspended for 8 weeks, not the other way.
Not sure Aus cares about NZers coming this way. Cindy might not like Kiwis going who then want to go back. Not sure.
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@booboo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@mariner4life you are still breathing right
But yeah, Aus & NZ are far too far down this path now that they have to stay the course until they vaccinate everyone and then look at opening to the world!
the pessimistic part of me says, even with teh vaccine, when (if) we open up, there are going to be a bunch of cases, and a bunch of people are going to die.
and that will be sad on two fronts. sad that people have died. and sad we have put ourselves through this for not much tangible benefit.
i hope i am very wrong.
First bold: I'd suggest "realistic"
Second bold: I'll disagree. I reckon we've had close to a normal life in NZ and Aus ( particularly QLD ... to date... ), and opening up suggests decent proportion vaxxed and therefore more protected.
18 months ago I was in (I'm guessing) the 5% mortality band. Now I'm vaxxed I'm guessing my risk is way way lower.
And at least I can post this without having to use a device ...
I think sometimes overseas people think we’ve been constantly in rolling lockdowns. This is my second. The original one and then now Gladys’ one. Life was pretty normal for 12 months. We started vaccinations late but we’ve been in less restrictions than any of my overseas mates.
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@nepia said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@booboo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@mariner4life you are still breathing right
But yeah, Aus & NZ are far too far down this path now that they have to stay the course until they vaccinate everyone and then look at opening to the world!
the pessimistic part of me says, even with teh vaccine, when (if) we open up, there are going to be a bunch of cases, and a bunch of people are going to die.
and that will be sad on two fronts. sad that people have died. and sad we have put ourselves through this for not much tangible benefit.
i hope i am very wrong.
First bold: I'd suggest "realistic"
Second bold: I'll disagree. I reckon we've had close to a normal life in NZ and Aus ( particularly QLD ... to date... ), and opening up suggests decent proportion vaxxed and therefore more protected.
18 months ago I was in (I'm guessing) the 5% mortality band. Now I'm vaxxed I'm guessing my risk is way way lower.
And at least I can post this without having to use a device ...
I think sometimes overseas people think we’ve been constantly in rolling lockdowns. This is my second. The original one and then now Gladys’ one. Life was pretty normal for 12 months. We started vaccinations late but we’ve been in less restrictions than any of my overseas mates.
That's the thing many don't seem to grasp. Almost every country in America Europe and Asia have had lockdowns, so it's not like we are going out on a limb, everyone locks down. NZ and parts of Australia went hard and fast, and we are generally the areas that have enjoyed an almost normal life apart from very limited overseas travel
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@nepia said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@booboo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@mariner4life you are still breathing right
But yeah, Aus & NZ are far too far down this path now that they have to stay the course until they vaccinate everyone and then look at opening to the world!
the pessimistic part of me says, even with teh vaccine, when (if) we open up, there are going to be a bunch of cases, and a bunch of people are going to die.
and that will be sad on two fronts. sad that people have died. and sad we have put ourselves through this for not much tangible benefit.
i hope i am very wrong.
First bold: I'd suggest "realistic"
Second bold: I'll disagree. I reckon we've had close to a normal life in NZ and Aus ( particularly QLD ... to date... ), and opening up suggests decent proportion vaxxed and therefore more protected.
18 months ago I was in (I'm guessing) the 5% mortality band. Now I'm vaxxed I'm guessing my risk is way way lower.
And at least I can post this without having to use a device ...
I think sometimes overseas people think we’ve been constantly in rolling lockdowns. This is my second. The original one and then now Gladys’ one. Life was pretty normal for 12 months. We started vaccinations late but we’ve been in less restrictions than any of my overseas mates.
That's the thing many don't seem to grasp. Almost every country in America Europe and Asia have had lockdowns, so it's not like we are going out on a limb, everyone locks down. NZ and parts of Australia went hard and fast, and we are generally the areas that have enjoyed an almost normal life apart from very limited overseas travel
No, not true. We are sick of hearing about your success in our media basically, and laughing in a jealous sort of way at the extreme reactions.
Trust me, we couldn’t be more aware that life down there has been sweet. I doubt most people are even aware that Melbourne was closed for a few months.
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@majorrage said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@nepia said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@booboo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@mariner4life you are still breathing right
But yeah, Aus & NZ are far too far down this path now that they have to stay the course until they vaccinate everyone and then look at opening to the world!
the pessimistic part of me says, even with teh vaccine, when (if) we open up, there are going to be a bunch of cases, and a bunch of people are going to die.
and that will be sad on two fronts. sad that people have died. and sad we have put ourselves through this for not much tangible benefit.
i hope i am very wrong.
First bold: I'd suggest "realistic"
Second bold: I'll disagree. I reckon we've had close to a normal life in NZ and Aus ( particularly QLD ... to date... ), and opening up suggests decent proportion vaxxed and therefore more protected.
18 months ago I was in (I'm guessing) the 5% mortality band. Now I'm vaxxed I'm guessing my risk is way way lower.
And at least I can post this without having to use a device ...
I think sometimes overseas people think we’ve been constantly in rolling lockdowns. This is my second. The original one and then now Gladys’ one. Life was pretty normal for 12 months. We started vaccinations late but we’ve been in less restrictions than any of my overseas mates.
That's the thing many don't seem to grasp. Almost every country in America Europe and Asia have had lockdowns, so it's not like we are going out on a limb, everyone locks down. NZ and parts of Australia went hard and fast, and we are generally the areas that have enjoyed an almost normal life apart from very limited overseas travel
No, not true. We are sick of hearing about your success in our media basically, and laughing in a jealous sort of way at the extreme reactions.
Trust me, we couldn’t be more aware that life down there has been sweet. I doubt most people are even aware that Melbourne was closed for a few months.
I'm not trying to trigger you mate, but I know you are easily triggered by such talk. I am well aware that Melbourne has been locked down, my sister lives there and her kids have spent almost as much time at home than at school. I have a colleague an hour outside London that was locked down for months too. It might sound like gloating but for my part I just feel fortunate that we have been at least as lucky as we have been good