All Blacks vs Springboks II
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@billy-tell said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Needs selection changes for this test
- Different props on the bench
- Jacobson and/or Papilili into the XV
- ALB at 13, Rieko at 11. Reece could get a look in too.
- If available, Mounga at 10
- I don't see it happening given that both Moody and Ofa are coming back from injuries and neither Bower nor Lomax are quite ready (Lomax might be closer). I think the current guys will go better for having the run last week
- That should happen but hopefully they won't mess with things to much - Paps versus Blackadder for the bench role could be important
- Agree. Bridge should be dropped, and ALB to start with Roane to 11 and Reece on the bench, or ALB to the bench (23) and Roane stays at 13 with Reece to 11.
- Only if Barrett is injured.
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If Mounga hadn't had 6 weeks off from playing,He would be starting in my team,BB just doesn't yet look like he can capture his best form.
Maybe RM has overtaken him as no.1 but can't really throw him into the starting spot with no Rugby behind him for 6 weeks, and just out of Quarantine 4 days before Kick off. -
@chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
If Mounga hadn't had 6 weeks off from playing,He would be starting in my team,BB just doesn't yet look like he can capture his best form.
Maybe RM has overtaken him as no.1 but can't really throw him into the starting spot with no Rugby behind him for 6 weeks, and just out of Quarantine 4 days before Kick off.Beaudy seems to have left his best days behind. Richie is undergone. Best to stick with the current pair and give them another run I reckon. Hopefully they had a tough video session and will sort stuff out during the week
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@canefan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
If Mounga hadn't had 6 weeks off from playing,He would be starting in my team,BB just doesn't yet look like he can capture his best form.
Maybe RM has overtaken him as no.1 but can't really throw him into the starting spot with no Rugby behind him for 6 weeks, and just out of Quarantine 4 days before Kick off.Beaudy seems to have left his best days behind. Richie is undergone. Best to stick with the current pair and give them another run I reckon. Hopefully they had a tough video session and will sort stuff out during the week
Yeah I think they have too maybe RM off the bench for 20.
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@arhs said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Hope Dalton is back. Put Blackadder to 6.
I'd stick with Akira at 6. He's been pretty good this year and wasn't the only one to have a bad game on Saturday. Blackadder seems more of a 7 to me and I hope Foster doesn't bugger about with his position this early in his career.
Agree with ALB and the 9/10 jerseys, though.
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@arhs said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Thought swapping half backs might be the priority.
It should be. BB looked great in Perth playing in combination with Weber. TJP's slow/high/low passing did not help his 10 and 12.
I am expecting the loose forward trio that was originally selected to start. Ardie at 7 is much better than Ardie at 8 because he doesn't play that tighter role that we need from our no.8. That then allows Ioane to be in the wider channels.
Bridge out of the 23 should be a no-brainer.
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@bovidae said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@arhs said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Thought swapping half backs might be the priority.
It should be. BB looked great in Perth playing in combination with Weber. TJP's slow/high/low passing did not help his 10 and 12.
It was such a shame for BB to go backwards from the game before, neither 10 nor 12 looked comfortable, and doubling on the terrible passing/lack of platform I wonder if that Bok line wasn't up rather early but I have not seen a reply..
I am expecting the loose forward trio that was originally selected to start. Ardie at 7 is much better than Ardie at 8 because he doesn't play that tighter role that we need from our no.8. That then allows Ioane to be in the wider channels.
I agree, Ardie and Akira at 8 and 6 maybe are too similar.
Bridge out of the 23 should be a no-brainer.
I think this may have been said before.
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@bovidae said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@arhs said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Thought swapping half backs might be the priority.
It should be. BB looked great in Perth playing in combination with Weber. TJP's slow/high/low passing did not help his 10 and 12.
I am expecting the loose forward trio that was originally selected to start. Ardie at 7 is much better than Ardie at 8 because he doesn't play that tighter role that we need from our no.8. That then allows Ioane to be in the wider channels.
Bridge out of the 23 should be a no-brainer.
The only issue with Akira, Ardie, Jacobson is that one of them will be the middle which is the Cane/Paps speciality. I don't mind Ardie and Akira together but both are better on the edges, so someone has to play in the middle. I'm not sure that is Jacobson's role until Cane comes back and perhaps Ardie goes to the bench, when Jacobson can also go to the tramlines.
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@bovidae said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@arhs said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Thought swapping half backs might be the priority.
It should be. BB looked great in Perth playing in combination with Weber. TJP's slow/high/low passing did not help his 10 and 12.
I am expecting the loose forward trio that was originally selected to start. Ardie at 7 is much better than Ardie at 8 because he doesn't play that tighter role that we need from our no.8. That then allows Ioane to be in the wider channels.
Bridge out of the 23 should be a no-brainer.
I would credit the boks with screwing up our platform and everyone wider out suffered
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@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
The only issue with Akira, Ardie, Jacobson is that one of them will be the middle which is the Cane/Paps speciality. I don't mind Ardie and Akira together but both are better on the edges, so someone has to play in the middle. I'm not sure that is Jacobson's role until Cane comes back and perhaps Ardie goes to the bench.
My preference would be an Ioane/Papalii/Jacobson combo but that isn't going to happen while Savea is captain. Once Whitelock (or Cane) returns we may see that trio again. Obviously in this game both props and locks need to be more effective in cleaning at the breakdown too.
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I don't think you can overstate the role TJP had in putting our backline under pressure leading to so many errors. His passing was inaccurate at best, and nearly every ruck he was taking a few steps before passing the ball while he looked for who to pass too. You just can't afford those delays plus passes at players feet/head against a rush defense.
I never thought I'd say this, but I really hope Weber starts the next match. Beauden and Havili probably do as well.
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I like Jacobsen but he appears to have taken on almost legend status the more he doesn’t play… 😉
Keep Beaudie at 1st 5. Give Weber the start.
What do we do at tighthead? On the weekend wasn’t Laulala’s first poor showing this year. Ofa could get a start now that he’s had two stints off the bench. Keep Taylor and Sami.
Retallick needs a rocket. Looking forward to him firing.
We need to find an edge for this match. What is it going to be, now that the Bledisloe and RC is wrapped up, 100th test is won, been away from home for a while and long tour ahead.
Is it the undefeated season; maintaining no. 1, building, overcoming a below standard performance - something! Squad positions aren’t really up for grabs for the NH tour like they normally are at the end of a RC campaign.
The humidity won’t be as bad on the GC that it was up in Townsville so hopefully there will be better handling on the passing.
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@bovidae said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
The only issue with Akira, Ardie, Jacobson is that one of them will be the middle which is the Cane/Paps speciality. I don't mind Ardie and Akira together but both are better on the edges, so someone has to play in the middle. I'm not sure that is Jacobson's role until Cane comes back and perhaps Ardie goes to the bench.
My preference would be an Ioane/Papalii/Jacobson combo but that isn't going to happen while Savea is captain. Once Whitelock (or Cane) returns we may see that trio again. Obviously in this game both props and locks need to be more effective in cleaning at the breakdown too.
Mine too, but I think AKira, Paps, Ardie works well too with Jacobson off the bench. I’m tempted to say that we could go with the same trio as last week but hopefully be a bit more accurate and see how things go.
I really agree that we need a bit more from our props, and we basically abandoned our forward running game last week so hopefully they bring that back.
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@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
I like Jacobsen but he appears to have taken on almost legend status the more he doesn’t play… 😉
Braydon Ennor says hello.
Keep Beaudie at 1st 5. Give Weber the start.
Ooh. Cojones (regards BB that is).
What do we do at tighthead? On the weekend wasn’t Laulala’s first poor showing this year. Ofa could get a start now that he’s had two stints off the bench. Keep Taylor and Sami.
I thought Ofa didn't look match ready at all. Again, cojones. I liked how Lomax has been playing.
Retallick needs a rocket. Looking forward to him firing.
Would be nice to see the locks more in unison, I've decided the Barretts are all very strong on the 'individual' front rather than working in combos.
We need to find an edge for this match. What is it going to be, now that the Bledisloe and RC is wrapped up, 100th test is won, been away from home for a while and long tour ahead.
An edge, play better or don't play! Not many in the starting team that are irreplaceable.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
I like Jacobsen but he appears to have taken on almost legend status the more he doesn’t play… 😉
Braydon Ennor says hello.
Ennor says hello back, but what’s your point?
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@act-crusader seems to have a hold on squad selection despite a huge gap in actually playing/body of work at the top level..
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@act-crusader seems to have a hold on squad selection despite a huge gap in actually playing/body of work at the top level..
Pretty comfortable he can't do worse than last weekend....surely....
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@bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@act-crusader seems to have a hold on squad selection despite a huge gap in actually playing/body of work at the top level..
Pretty comfortable he can't do worse than last weekend....surely....
Didn't think Rieko did much wrong, problem was...
