The Breakdown (TV Show)
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@nzzp said in The Breakdown (TV Show):
@bovidae @Crucial the fact that this show doesn't get a mention on this rugby mad sports site tells you all you need to know about the content. It's superficial fluff, not really worth tuning in for unless there's something in particular.
Hence the reason I only pick and choose content to watch.
The show is a massive embarrassment of old boys talking cliches. We have some of the best rugby brains in the world to tap into for analysis and comment but for some reason Sky think we need to hear old player’s opinions instead. -
Caught a little bit of the show last night and thought that Tui was contributing well and appeared a lot more comfortable.
At times her contributions were so good that Goldie let her go a bit too long and she had to resort to cliches to fill the gap but hopefully they can fix that between them.
I thought she has brought a different perspective to the show compared to the 'old boy retired player - back in my day' thing it can easily fall into. She adds some life to things as well.
Hope they keep using her. -
As it's a Sky TV show I will mention it here.
The latest Playmakers: Rugby Stories is well worth watching as Tony Johnson talks with John Hart and Ian Jones about the historic 1996 tour of SA. There are anecdotes from the midweek and test games and some background about the planning for the tour.
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Was really impressed by Chelsea Alley as a speaker at AIMS Games a couple of years ago. Great attitude, and a refreshing degree of individuality - instead of the manufactured polish of some presenters.
Breakdown is ok - but it is not at the level of the Matty Johns show - partly due to covid-19 restrictions. Would love to see a bit more of off the cuff player personalities developed. Angus Ta'avao and Brad Weber could have a future
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One thing I can’t stand from the likes of Jeff Wilson and the Breakdown show is this utter dismissal of SR in a RWC year. Sky don’t even have the rights for the RWC (am I right?) and they are pumping it like it’s the be all and end all. We probably know 90% of the players, if not more, who are going if they’re fit.
If you tell the punters the comp doesn’t matter, sooner or later they start to believe you. Look at some of the piss poor crowds.
We know who the next coach is, we know Eddie is in Oz now. Come back to me in July. Too many good old boys drinking the same milk.
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@game_film I agree with you about the Breakdown. That's why I stopped watching the Breakdown, not Super Rugby.
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@Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2023:
@game_film I agree with you about the Breakdown. That's why I stopped watching the Breakdown, not Super Rugby.
The Breakdown needs a re-vamp. It's the same old dross every week, I'm surprised it's still running tbh.
The Aotearoa Rugby Pod is so much better.
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@Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2023:
@Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2023:
@game_film I agree with you about the Breakdown. That's why I stopped watching the Breakdown, not Super Rugby.
The Breakdown needs a re-vamp. It's the same old dross every week, I'm surprised it's still running tbh.
The Aotearoa Rugby Pod is so much better.
I have watched it on Stan here in Australia, I have to agree it is a complete load of dross,I won't bother watching it again.
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@Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2023:
@Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2023:
@game_film I agree with you about the Breakdown. That's why I stopped watching the Breakdown, not Super Rugby.
The Breakdown needs a re-vamp. It's the same old dross every week, I'm surprised it's still running tbh.
The Aotearoa Rugby Pod is so much better.
If you remember back the Breakdown tried many formats based on other shows and setups but mostly they fell flat. I'm thinking that once the found one the wasn't cringe-worthy they don't want to try and revamp again.
I think we all agree that there is room for better analysis and less chat/opinion mainly because you know what the hosts are going to say before they open their mouths.
I guess it comes down to $. You would need a team of folk pulling together timely analysis/graphics etc over a short period. Easier just to roll up a talk. -
@Crucial said in Super Rugby 2023:
I think we all agree that there is room for better analysis and less chat/opinion mainly because you know what the hosts are going to say before they open their mouths.
you need smart, informed poeple saying things worth listening to. The Breakdown is not that. Their audience seems to be people who aren't that interested in rugby, but want to watch ex-players and presenters.
For me, an analysis package for hardcore fans, a fluff package for the casual, and a factual roundup of what happened this week, and what's coming up. Right now we get the second, and some of the third. Get some coaches in there breaking down plays each week, defensive structures, kicking - basically Squidge but qualified. That I would watch, as it would improve my depth of understanding of the game.
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@Crucial said in Super Rugby 2023:
I think we all agree that there is room for better analysis and less chat/opinion mainly because you know what the hosts are going to say before they open their mouths.
So do they. It's too scripted and rehearsed.
My preference would be for a show with scripted analysis segments. Similar to what Preston did during the last RWC for Spark, or 1014
The discussion sections should be more free form and less going down the line and everyone says two sentences that they've preprepared. That might require different experts. JK tries to hard, Mils rarely says anything interesting. The people with the best communication skills may not be the most famous
@Crucial said in Super Rugby 2023:
Easier just to roll up a talk.
That's not what is happening. If that were the case there would be natural reaction to what is said and the conversation would flow better. They often mention things like "that's not what you said in rehearsal"
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I liked it when they invited Glenn Jackson and Tabai Matson for analysis a few seasons ago. They were good at analysing and explaining things, without the biased tribal bs from the presentators/commentators. That happened only a few times, unfortunately.
